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Intel in Macs (2007)
- techdragon 6y agoThis was a real blast from the past. I got my first Mac a little after the switch and i remember reading through a lot of these pages back in the day.
- fermienrico 6y agoI really miss the old days when there was no real concept of data collection, not big ad-tech companies pissing over a good set of goods and services, just pure tools that worked (and sometimes they didn't). What happened, humans?
- walterbell 6y agoThose humans won some battles but lost the war. Need new people to fork known-good points on that timeline, using open protocols and code. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversarial-interoperability-burrowed-under-gatekeepers-fortresses https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/02/gopher-when-adversaria... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23042424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23042424
- donatj 6y agoMy very first Mac was the very first Intel Mac Mini, I remember at the time disputing getting a PPC Mac Mini instead for software compatibility. I'm glad I didn't. I was a long time Windows fanboy and that Mac Mini converted me. That machine is still kicking, my dad was using it for web browsing until earlier this year. Firefox was for a long time the only modern browser he could use, and then even that stopped supporting 32 bit Macs.
- heavyset_go 6y agoI have the first Intel Mac Mini still running for my parents, and it runs the latest Firefox really well on 32-bit Debian. I set them up with a macOS theme on Plasma Desktop and the only difference that they seemed to notice is that their computer became much faster. You can upgrade the machine with a Core 2 Duo processor for about $4 if you really want to keep it running forever.
- nsxwolf 6y agoThe G4 Mac Mini was the slowest new computer I’ve ever owned. It was barely usable for anything.
- fzzzy 6y agoIt's now possible to install OS 9 on it thanks to some clever hacking. It's a speed demon.
- IntelMiner 6y agoWhat's the hardware support like?
- godzillabrennus 6y agoI used one for desktop publishing at a company when they first launched. Pagemaker and Quark ran like a regular at the heart attack grill trying to do a marathon. When we upgraded to a Mac Pro upon launch it was like a whole new world of possibilities had opened up.
- scarface74 6y agoFunny enough. This was my fourth and final personal Mac [1]. I installed Windows 7 on it and gave it to my mom. She is still using it as a “guest” computer when she tutors. It’s running like a charm 14 years later. I installed Office 365 on it, but most of her students just use Google Docs with Chrome. [1] not that I have anything against Macs, but I don’t use my personal computer for much of anything anymore. A cheap Windows laptop is good enough. I use my iPad/iPhone for everything I do personally.
- sys_64738 6y agoBack in the days when Macs were #1 and the iPhone was a figment of Steve's imagination.
- scarface74 6y agoBy 2005, the iPhone was definitely in development.
- rdsnsca 6y agoThe iPad was, for sure, the iPhone is a spinoff from the iPad project.
- pico303 6y agoSince the iPhone was released in 2007 and the iPad in 2010, I’m going to suggest your timeline is backwards.
- icedchai 6y agoThe iPad development supposedly started before the iPhone even though it was released after.
- pfranz 6y ago"Jobs later said that Apple had begun developing the iPad before the iPhone.[27][28]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad#History
- pico303 6y agoYeah, they'd messed with a clunky tablet for years. Then they finally developed a glass display that scrolled with touch and thought, "This would be better in a phone." I don't know if that really qualifies the iPhone as a "spinoff" of the Folio, or the Folio as even a predecessor to the iPad.
- lsllc 6y ago"On the very day the company officially announced its first Intel-based product, Apple's stock price closed at $80.86" How cool! https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060110/1818234_F.shtml https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060110/1818234_F.shtml
- BurningFrog 6y agoThe stock split 7-for-1 in 2014, so $80 in 2006 is about $11 per current stock, which is worth $372 today. It's been a great time to own Apple Stock!
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- saagarjha 6y agoIt’s generally been a good time to own the stock for the last two decades ;)
- jeffbee 6y agoWhile true, spectacularly so for Apple. If you had bought shares of the company instead of a new base-model PowerBook G4, you'd have over $700k today. If instead of a "founders' edition" Tesla Model S you'd bought shares of Tesla, you'd have enough money for fifty Teslas today. If you'd bought NDVA shares instead of Nvidia's best GPU in 2009 ... you still would not be able to afford Nvidia's current best GPU. Hrmm.
- 2bitencryption 6y agoI have some big nostalgia for that hero-banner image -- the pretty blue swooshes. I remember trying to replicate that style, watching hours of 3:2 480p tutorials in Paint.NET and Photoshop CS, so I could have the coolest signature in whatever php web forum I was haunting at the time...
- person_of_color 6y agoNow this battery icon. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/23/macos-big-sur-battery-history-and-estimates/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/23/macos-big-sur-battery-h...
- Ecco 6y agoHoly cow, that icon is fugly...
- sixothree 6y agoI know sometimes new designs need some time to "grow on you". I do not believe this is one of those times.
- Earwig 6y agoIt's painfully bad enough that I have to assume it will change before release.
- dmix 6y agoIt could very likely be a placeholder.
- selectodude 6y agoI know Apple can be pretty staid but for a beta I am assuming (and hoping) that they're taking the piss on that.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y agoFrom the days when 2 cores on a chip was impressive:) (And it was!)
- Polylactic_acid 6y agoNow I have a 12 core cpu in my desktop wondering if I should have got the 16 core one.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y agoThe future is an amazing place to live:D
- Andrex 6y agoMeanwhile, the Ghz have barely budged an inch! They even seem to have gone down in some cases! ;)
- phillco 6y ago"Transition accomplished" I miss the days when Apple's taglines were always witty (they're still sometimes witty, but not consistently so.)
- Ecco 6y agoI don’t get the wit in this one. Would you mind explaining?
- Alex3917 6y agoAgree with this. Apple marketing copy back in the day had a big impact on my personal writing style. It does seem like they started doing it again on some of the copy for the newest OS though.
- albntomat0 6y agoThe subtitles are also "The new Mac core", "Four on the floor", and "Dual-roar", which rhyme. Four on the floor is also a type of manual transmission system in vehicles (4 gears, shifter on the floor). Additionally, as I just learned, it also has meaning in music
- projektfu 6y agoDisco Mac.
- justinator 6y agoOr marching band.
- saagarjha 6y agoHa, this is cute :) Looks like the Rosetta link still works too: https://www.apple.com/sg/rosetta/ https://www.apple.com/sg/rosetta/. Never really got to try it much, as I didn't really use Macs back then, although I'm curious if anyone from that time knows what the "oah" name stood for.
- martimarkov 6y agoWhat do you mean by “oah” name? Where did you see it?
- saagarjha 6y agoAll the Rosetta stuff used to be in a folder at /usr/libexec/oah.
- granzymes 6y agoOS(X) Arch Handler is my bet. `archhandler` was in the name of Rosetta's sysctl variable.
- Wowfunhappy 6y ago> Pro applications from Apple — including Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Aperture, Logic Pro, Logic Express, Shake and Final Cut Express — are not supported by Rosetta. Huh, I wonder why that was.
- tambourine_man 6y ago
- scarface74 6y agoJust to go a little further back, a contemporary TidBits article about the original PPC Macs. https://tidbits.com/1994/03/14/the-power-macintosh-picture/ https://tidbits.com/1994/03/14/the-power-macintosh-picture/
- jeffbee 6y agoSome seriously ripe claim chowder on that blog regarding the imminent 25x performance of the PowerPC 620, due in 1996 at the latest!
- savoytruffle 6y agoLower-power CPU's rising to the occasion to crowd out high end chips is a recurring theme in the industry, but especially for Apple! 620 never got anywhere because the 604 variants were better and then the 603-based 750 (G3) was a lot better. G5 never got anywhere because not the Pentium4, but the Celeron-derived CoreDuo was a lot better! Now abandoning Intel because iPad ARM CPUs are a lot better!
- scarface74 6y agoThe 603’s were horrible. With the slower cache and I believe they had less cache memory, the 68K emulator crawled. Back then, most of the OS itself was still emulated.
- quyleanh 6y agoSo what is the future of Hackintosh?
- saagarjha 6y agoProbably secure for the next couple years as Apple continues supporting their current Intel lineup. After that, perhaps we'll have more Corelliums pop up.
- lathiat 6y agoThere seems to be quite a few of those remnants on the apple.com site, every few months I feel like I see one of these links for old school content and themes :)
- IncRnd 6y agoWhere can I get one of these sweet looking number crunchers?
- redis_mlc 6y agoJust a historical note for the Apple fanbois ... Mac OS X ran in parallel on Motorola and Intel chips for roughly 5 years before the Intel products were released. Source: worked there.
- mgleason_3 6y agoHaha, I'd be more nostalgic if I hadn't bought a 68000-based Mac just before the announcement that Apple was transitioning away from Motorola in the 90’s. Same baloney about releasing additional (Motorola-then / Intel-now) models during the transition. It very quickly became an expensive boat-anchor. I think I was still paying on the loan I'd gotten it since I was a poor college student working auto repair to make ends meet. I'm excited about the move to the new processor. Also super glad my 2013 MBP has had a good run. It's still totally adequate. 'Course that's a problem isn't it? It'll be interesting to see how the year turns out for Apple - seems like you'd be nuts to buy an Intel Mac now, right?
- akho 6y agoYou mean PowerPC. Motorola->Power switch is mid-1990s.
- mgleason_3 6y agoYes, thanks for clarifying!
- richrichardsson 6y agoJust think how pissed you'd be if you just dropped 6k on a new Mac Pro that will be obsoleted in 3 years. Not speaking from experience, no sir.
- pjmlp 6y agoApparently Marco from ATP fame did just that.
- scarface74 6y agoMarco buys computers like most people buy shoes. But just because Apple comes out with a computer based on a new processor doesn’t mean your current computer stops working or stops getting updates. The Apple // line was still getting software updates in 1991 and the Mac was introduced in 1984. Heck Apple sold the //e compatibility card in 1992 for Macs. Apple supported 68K Macs for five years after the PPC Macs were introduced. They also supported the PPC Macs for either 5 years (10.7 came out in 2011) or 8 years (10.6 wasn’t classified as unsupported until 2014).
- qilo 6y agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20200709070612/https://www.apple.com/sg/intel/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200709070612/https://www.apple...