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I would generally go for "as few as possible given the circumstances". Given how much higher they are over other nations—even taking into account excess deaths
by ncallaway 6y ago
I would generally go for "as few as possible given the circumstances".
Given how much higher they are over other nations—even taking into account excess deaths—I would say they have failed that metric.
- 345218435 6y agobull. shit. plot yourself the numbers. their website is available in english. https://twitter.com/haraldofw/status/1280383315871236096?s=21 https://twitter.com/haraldofw/status/1280383315871236096?s=2...
- 345218435 6y agothanks for the downvotes. what a leftist liberal light-skinned cesspool hn has degraded to. this community should be ashamed of the unwelcoming and hostile circle it fosters.
- arcticbull 6y agoYou cannot know that until after the pandemic is over. The Swedes are betting that nobody in the world will be spared from COVID and therefore the delta in deaths is temporary. They are front-loading it while attempting to keep the economic impacts as low as possible. They anticipate the rest of the world will be contending with shutdowns, re-openings, shutdowns, re-openings, and when all is said and done, the death rate per capita will be the same the world over. So far, they the Swedes have bet one way, much of the rest of the world has bet the other way. Time will tell, but it is much too soon to make that judgment today.
- freyr 6y ago> The Swedes are betting that nobody in the world will be spared from COVID It's also a bet that medical treatments won't improve and a vaccine won't be developed.
- arcticbull 6y agoDeveloped in time, yes. So far, at least using the US as a benchmark, it's not.
- CaptainZapp 6y agoI'm not sure if it's a good idea to use the US as a benchmark for any thing Covid.
- arcticbull 6y agoPoint well taken.
- takeda 6y agoor that many people who survive (including younger ones) will be disabled and unable to work
- rimliu 6y agoHow do you get many younger ones disabled, when younger ones are barely getting ill? It is a desease that affects the older ones much more.
- null_object 6y agoTwo young people I know here in Stockholm have had complications: my team lead (who is in his mid-thirties) had an embolism in his lung after covid. He now has to inject blood-thinning medication twice a day. We’ll see how this works out for him.
- ljf 6y agoI've posted elsewhere but my wife (40yo and in great health) has been suffering from a range of issues since her infection over 100 days ago. She cant climb stairs without getting out of breath. Her covid symptoms for the first two weeks was relatively mild. She is in a Slack group with over 7000 others. Predominantly women over 40 or men 2o to 50. All with serious long term issues after getting covid. It is a small number, but not small enough to wave away.
- anders_p 6y agoThey haven't seen any benefit to their economy compared to other nordic countries at all. Partly because they are export dependant and nobody's buying & partly because enough swedes are staying home (not going to pubs etc.) for the economy to tank but not enough to avoid 10 times as many deaths as their neighbours. So, yes, time will tell. But for now they are getting the worst of both: Many dead and no economic benefit.
- nickthemagicman 6y agoSweden hasnt any had any hospitals overwhelmed. they're just front loading the deaths that every single other country is going to have but is just delaying. Do you think Corona is going anywhere?
- Leherenn 6y agoA vaccine in the next couple years is not unthinkable I'd say. If you have a look at the current infection rate in a lot of European (and others) countries, even reaching 50% of the population infected would take decades. So yes, I believe that delaying is not the only possibility.
- anoncake 6y agoKeeping the virus contained for years is unthinkable. If we don't get a vaccine by next year, we won't need it anymore.
- Leherenn 6y agoWith the current measures in Europe? Definitely doable. It's currently mandatory masks in public, keeping distances and washing hands, and no big crowds. Life feels pretty normal over here.
- anoncake 6y agoIt's great that life feels normal for you, not everyone is that lucky. People have already started to disobey and it isn't even winter.