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I completely disagree. Their code quality has gone down the tubes. The new UDM/UXG routers have 1/10th the functionality of the previous generation USG and ha

by tw04 6y ago

I completely disagree. Their code quality has gone down the tubes. The new UDM/UXG routers have 1/10th the functionality of the previous generation USG and have been buggy from the get-go including such basic functionality as not hard-locking when utilizing an SFP for your WAN ports. The Unifi Protect software isn't even close to feature parity with Video and there's not even a hint that it will get there before they EOL Video. Their largest "hardware" option supports a whopping 4 hard drives and forces you to use RAID-5 across them. No AI functionality to detect humans/animals/cars, it barely even qualifies as an NVR. Blue Iris runs absolute circles around Protect and actually has a full feature set for less money and no hardware tie-in. Ubiquiti has been trying their hardest to jump the shark in 2020 and I'm getting closer to dropping them from my network entirely.

mason55 6y ago
> I'm getting closer to dropping them from my network entirely. What are the best alternatives right now? Planning to do a whole house in the next few months and have been planning on Ubiquiti. I've heard some complaints lately but haven't heard of anything that makes for a good replacement. My number one requirement is mesh APs with fast handoff. Close second is ease of admining multiple networks and ease of setting up segregated VLANs for IoT stuff.
- tw04 6y ago
  I recently saw Aruba has come out with a consumer focused line. Given how good their enterprise gear is, I'd imagine it's solid. Haven't used it myself yet but heard good things from friends. https://www.arubainstanton.com/ https://www.arubainstanton.com/ For a router I'm back to pfsense/opnsense (haven't decided which one is going to stick).
- c0nsumer 6y ago
  I've been thinking of Aruba APs and a FortiGate 61F. It'll be more manual setup, but should work fine. I've got a nice UniFi setup at home (CloudKey G2, USG, 8-port switch, wired AP, mesh'd AP) and it works well, but it's lacking in some frustrating ways. For example, it advertises DPI, but it doesn't provide data that can guide decisions. It'll group things into buckets, but you can't look at it over any timeframe (doesn't even say when you reset the counters) much less trigger on if anything exeptional happens. There's also this nifty power widget which you can connect to a cable modem (between it and mains power) and when the internet connection fails, it'll power cycle the modem... not a bad thing for some iffy ISPs. It works, but it doesn't log to the otherwise-reasonably-extensive system logs. So, you never know if it actually DID anything. The setup here at home works well. The APs are solid, as is the security gateway. But it just seems to lack in some advertised ways; enough so to make me question sticking with them when it next becomes time to upgrade.
  - myrandomcomment 6y ago
    So I installed the UniFi smart power plug and it does log. Not much detail, and there are server post in the forms asking for more details on the settings (timeout settings, how long it waits, what it pings, etc.) that have gone unanswered, but it does log. The message in my log is: {ap} outlet 0 has been power cycled Running latest GA on CloudKey2.
    - c0nsumer 6y ago
      Really? Thanks! Maybe that changed with an update since I got mine... That's excellent. I'll make a power cycle happen later and affirm things here.
- Khaine 6y ago
  It depends on how enterprisey you want to go, and how much of an all in one solution (fully integrated like the UniFi line). I've started looking at options, and you have: Prosumer TP-Link EAP SMB Meraki Go Aruba Ruckus Enterprise Cisco Merakai You also have some FOSS options like pfsense and OPNsense for the security gateways. I'd be keen to know if anyone has some good recommendations. The Meraki Go range looks attractive enough to have APs around your house, but the cloud/app based management concerns me.
serf 6y ago
>No AI functionality to detect humans/animals/cars, it barely even qualifies as an NVR. eh. after having to maintain these systems for long enough i've come to realize that the AI system, if one exists, should be a separate compartmentalized system that is far away (architecturally) from the actual NVR functions. I'd rather the NVR system be faithfully 24/7 recording (because AIs are imperfect and I need real accountability), and be focused on the job of stutter-free/jitter-free/low-latency/high-resolution recording. Then , in my experience, it's best to have another system that deals with everything else like scheduling/event notification/ai detection/streaming. it's a pain logistically, but it's nice to be able to deal with practically everything that is 'NVR-sourced' without touching the recording solution. ((this isn't really Unifi specific; just general IPTV/NVR advice.))

by tw04 6y ago

mason55 6y ago

> I'm getting closer to dropping them from my network entirely. What are the best alternatives right now? Planning to do a whole house in the next few months and have been planning on Ubiquiti. I've heard some complaints lately but haven't heard of anything that makes for a good replacement. My number one requirement is mesh APs with fast handoff. Close second is ease of admining multiple networks and ease of setting up segregated VLANs for IoT stuff.

tw04 6y ago
I recently saw Aruba has come out with a consumer focused line. Given how good their enterprise gear is, I'd imagine it's solid. Haven't used it myself yet but heard good things from friends. https://www.arubainstanton.com/ https://www.arubainstanton.com/ For a router I'm back to pfsense/opnsense (haven't decided which one is going to stick).
c0nsumer 6y ago
I've been thinking of Aruba APs and a FortiGate 61F. It'll be more manual setup, but should work fine. I've got a nice UniFi setup at home (CloudKey G2, USG, 8-port switch, wired AP, mesh'd AP) and it works well, but it's lacking in some frustrating ways. For example, it advertises DPI, but it doesn't provide data that can guide decisions. It'll group things into buckets, but you can't look at it over any timeframe (doesn't even say when you reset the counters) much less trigger on if anything exeptional happens. There's also this nifty power widget which you can connect to a cable modem (between it and mains power) and when the internet connection fails, it'll power cycle the modem... not a bad thing for some iffy ISPs. It works, but it doesn't log to the otherwise-reasonably-extensive system logs. So, you never know if it actually DID anything. The setup here at home works well. The APs are solid, as is the security gateway. But it just seems to lack in some advertised ways; enough so to make me question sticking with them when it next becomes time to upgrade.
- myrandomcomment 6y ago
  So I installed the UniFi smart power plug and it does log. Not much detail, and there are server post in the forms asking for more details on the settings (timeout settings, how long it waits, what it pings, etc.) that have gone unanswered, but it does log. The message in my log is: {ap} outlet 0 has been power cycled Running latest GA on CloudKey2.
  - c0nsumer 6y ago
    Really? Thanks! Maybe that changed with an update since I got mine... That's excellent. I'll make a power cycle happen later and affirm things here.
Khaine 6y ago
It depends on how enterprisey you want to go, and how much of an all in one solution (fully integrated like the UniFi line). I've started looking at options, and you have: Prosumer TP-Link EAP SMB Meraki Go Aruba Ruckus Enterprise Cisco Merakai You also have some FOSS options like pfsense and OPNsense for the security gateways. I'd be keen to know if anyone has some good recommendations. The Meraki Go range looks attractive enough to have APs around your house, but the cloud/app based management concerns me.

serf 6y ago

>No AI functionality to detect humans/animals/cars, it barely even qualifies as an NVR. eh. after having to maintain these systems for long enough i've come to realize that the AI system, if one exists, should be a separate compartmentalized system that is far away (architecturally) from the actual NVR functions. I'd rather the NVR system be faithfully 24/7 recording (because AIs are imperfect and I need real accountability), and be focused on the job of stutter-free/jitter-free/low-latency/high-resolution recording. Then , in my experience, it's best to have another system that deals with everything else like scheduling/event notification/ai detection/streaming. it's a pain logistically, but it's nice to be able to deal with practically everything that is 'NVR-sourced' without touching the recording solution. ((this isn't really Unifi specific; just general IPTV/NVR advice.))