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International students should be allowed to stay as long as they're full-time, and are accepted into an accredited university with the intention of attending in

by jb775 6y ago

International students should be allowed to stay as long as they're full-time, and are accepted into an accredited university with the intention of attending in person. I guess the gray area here is that colleges, many of them being for-profit entities, are facing big drops in enrollment and can essentially sell US citizenship in exchange for tuition payments. Once an online course system is set up, the only cost is generating new user credentials.

the_svd_doctor 6y ago
> "sell US citizenship" This is a big overstatement. There are many far from trivial steps between being a F/M student and getting citizenship. It certainly is a way for people to start they "immigration journey" to the US, though, obviously.
filoleg 6y ago
> International students should be allowed to stay as long as they're full-time, and are accepted into an accredited university with the intention of attending in person. Luckily, that's exactly what these new "rules" allow for (check the source material, not just news coverage of it; the source material is written in a pretty plain and easy to understand language, not walls of legalese). You are only getting kicked out if your courseload is fully online or if you don't take enough classes to qualify for a full-time student status. Otherwise, you are good.
jimbokun 6y ago
Probably more accurate to say "can essentially sell US visas in exchange for tuition payments".
- unishark 6y ago
  And that includes an addition year (or two years of STEM) of work visa after graduation. Plus something like 6 months of CPT in summers.
gnulinux 6y ago
Going from a student with F visa to Green Card is a >10 year adventure with all sorts of problems and complex legal framework. Not to mention, it's practically impossible for some majors, in particular if your major does not apply to OPT STEM extension, it's very hard to get H1B as you have 1 chance to be picked in lottery. This "universities sell US citizenship" thing is plain misinformation.
- sg47 6y ago
  If you are from India, it's a 150-year adventure.
ab8 6y ago
There are easier ways to buy a citizenship

by jb775 6y ago

the_svd_doctor 6y ago

> "sell US citizenship" This is a big overstatement. There are many far from trivial steps between being a F/M student and getting citizenship. It certainly is a way for people to start they "immigration journey" to the US, though, obviously.

filoleg 6y ago

> International students should be allowed to stay as long as they're full-time, and are accepted into an accredited university with the intention of attending in person. Luckily, that's exactly what these new "rules" allow for (check the source material, not just news coverage of it; the source material is written in a pretty plain and easy to understand language, not walls of legalese). You are only getting kicked out if your courseload is fully online or if you don't take enough classes to qualify for a full-time student status. Otherwise, you are good.

jimbokun 6y ago

Probably more accurate to say "can essentially sell US visas in exchange for tuition payments".

unishark 6y ago
And that includes an addition year (or two years of STEM) of work visa after graduation. Plus something like 6 months of CPT in summers.

gnulinux 6y ago

Going from a student with F visa to Green Card is a >10 year adventure with all sorts of problems and complex legal framework. Not to mention, it's practically impossible for some majors, in particular if your major does not apply to OPT STEM extension, it's very hard to get H1B as you have 1 chance to be picked in lottery. This "universities sell US citizenship" thing is plain misinformation.

sg47 6y ago
If you are from India, it's a 150-year adventure.

ab8 6y ago

There are easier ways to buy a citizenship