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What the f*ck is wrong with these people, this is so transparent. First they didn't want the "bad" immigrants coming, or the illegal immigrants, but now they do

What the f*ck is wrong with these people, this is so transparent. First they didn't want the "bad" immigrants coming, or the illegal immigrants, but now they don't want the students in higher education that are studying in the USA to be here either?!?!?! As if it's the students fault that the school they attend is forcing them to do online classes temporarily. I'd imagine a good bit of these students have pretty extensive lives and plans in the US since they're here LEGALLY.

belval 6y ago
Hopefully colleges will create some sort of "hybrid" programs that is not completely online to allow foreign students to stay in the US. But yeah, this is very sad.
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- astuyvenberg 6y ago
  It would be challenging to do so - the rule states that full time students can only enroll in one full-time online class.
  - horns4lyfe 6y ago
    That's not true, if the school is using a hybrid model students can take more courses online. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-ex...
yummypaint 6y ago
It was never about any of those things, it certainly was never about what is in the country's interest. It was always blind racism. In the very speech where trump announced his candidacy: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” This is a blanket statement about ALL mexican immigrants, and "you" refers to his entirely white base of supporters. The administration set up deliberately cruel and trauma-inducing family separations out of hatred, just as these policies are born out of hate. When backwards people talk about "illegals," they are never talking about people's legal immigration status, it's shorthand for race.
SamReidHughes 6y ago
I think the right interpretation of this is that it's an attack on universities, not an attack on international students. International students basically are not "stealing" Americans' jobs. They're creating them, in fact. They're high-dollar tourists, basically.
unishark 6y ago
I believe this dates back to 2001 where one of the hijackers was in the US on a student visa despite never attending any classes. Basically you require a babysitter to be allowed to stay. As for things that are "temporary", it's looking like the pandemic situation isn't changing any time soon unfortunately. I think everyone is just adapting. The govt is saying going totally online cannot become the new normal for internationals. Students are certainly able to transfer, by the way. I know students who failed and rushed to apply to yet another school (they always find one too) to avoid being sent home as a result.
imtringued 6y ago
I used to believe that the sentiment against bad immigrants was justified. There are some really good reasons why you wouldn't want to open up your country to desperate people who are willing to be exploited because their home country is an even worse place. Of course none of those reasons matter when you even kick out the type of immigration that is actively beneficial for your country. At that point it's just plain old xenophobia which is never acceptable.

belval 6y ago

Hopefully colleges will create some sort of "hybrid" programs that is not completely online to allow foreign students to stay in the US. But yeah, this is very sad.

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astuyvenberg 6y ago
It would be challenging to do so - the rule states that full time students can only enroll in one full-time online class.
- horns4lyfe 6y ago
  That's not true, if the school is using a hybrid model students can take more courses online. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-ex...

yummypaint 6y ago

It was never about any of those things, it certainly was never about what is in the country's interest. It was always blind racism. In the very speech where trump announced his candidacy: “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” This is a blanket statement about ALL mexican immigrants, and "you" refers to his entirely white base of supporters. The administration set up deliberately cruel and trauma-inducing family separations out of hatred, just as these policies are born out of hate. When backwards people talk about "illegals," they are never talking about people's legal immigration status, it's shorthand for race.

SamReidHughes 6y ago

I think the right interpretation of this is that it's an attack on universities, not an attack on international students. International students basically are not "stealing" Americans' jobs. They're creating them, in fact. They're high-dollar tourists, basically.

unishark 6y ago

I believe this dates back to 2001 where one of the hijackers was in the US on a student visa despite never attending any classes. Basically you require a babysitter to be allowed to stay. As for things that are "temporary", it's looking like the pandemic situation isn't changing any time soon unfortunately. I think everyone is just adapting. The govt is saying going totally online cannot become the new normal for internationals. Students are certainly able to transfer, by the way. I know students who failed and rushed to apply to yet another school (they always find one too) to avoid being sent home as a result.

imtringued 6y ago

I used to believe that the sentiment against bad immigrants was justified. There are some really good reasons why you wouldn't want to open up your country to desperate people who are willing to be exploited because their home country is an even worse place. Of course none of those reasons matter when you even kick out the type of immigration that is actively beneficial for your country. At that point it's just plain old xenophobia which is never acceptable.