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It's clear that some of the language we use needed to be changed, the previously used terms for primary and secondary hard drives are an obvious example. It se
by galvin 6y ago
It's clear that some of the language we use needed to be changed, the previously used terms for primary and secondary hard drives are an obvious example.
It seems to me that the notions related to black and white have broader cultural associations though. Light and dark or day and night have long been associated with good and bad. White similarly has associations with good and innocence hence the use for wedding dresses. I'm not convinced that we can easily rid ourselves of these deep rooted notions.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoYou're still giving the idea too much credit, I think. Black is just a color. The attitude that all black-colored things are intrinsically associated with black people is itself bizarre and problematic.
- galvin 6y agoI agree with you. All colours have associations and there are more pressing issues that need to be dealt with.
- fzeroracer 6y agoWhen people see a man wearing pink, they think of them as being gay or effeminate. Men wearing pink might be assaulted because of this association. Things are ultimately not 'just colors' because culture and society inform our reactions to color. That's one of the reasons why they want to avoid the connotations of black = evil because on some level that does tune our bias in a certain way.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI’m sorry, I really do want to try and understand, but I’m just completely lost on how to seriously engage with this argument.
- fzeroracer 6y agoPer my previous comment then, how about 'yellow peril'? Color coding for racist elements has a long and storied history across the world. Nothing exists as simply just a color in many environments because the usage of color matters in context.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI may be misunderstanding the analogy, but I don't get it. "Yellow peril" was developed as an explicit reference to skin color, and I've never seen it used by people who didn't intend that reference. Conversely, I think we'd agree it's pretty silly if someone said that we must rename traffic signals to "gold lights" because "yellow light" isn't simply a color.
- thefounder 6y agoThere is an issue with red as well(i.e see redskin rename debate) so perhaps we should use totally different colours (maybe some blue?)
- sukilot 6y ago"Black" people aren't black. "White" people aren't white. Having white skin is a rare disease (albinism). So why did pink people invent the term "negro"/"black" to describe Africans? And why did the pink people call themselves "white"?
- thefounder 6y agoBtw yellow people are not really yellow either. And albinism is not "pure" white either.
- fomine3 6y agoThat's exactly my thought. Why they should link a color to race?
- josteink 6y ago> the previously used terms for primary and secondary hard drives are an obvious example. You mean master and slave? Was that hard? Don’t be afraid of words. Be afraid of those who wants to silence the words.