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The difference is now the population growth is collapsing, even after they loosened the limit to 2 kids per family, China desperately needs more babies.

• oefrha 6y ago
  > loosened the limit to 2 kids per family Still a limit, and a low one at that, so doesn’t sound “desperate” at all. TFA says “I uncovered evidence that the Uighurs are subject to internment in camps if they violate birth control policies, have too many children.” Presumably too many is greater than 2, but who knows.
  • balola 6y ago
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/250650/number-of-births-in-china/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/250650/number-of-births-... The trend is clear, the limit was loosened late 2015, and it's not working coz people don't want/can't afford 2 kids. China didn't care minorities having 10 kids before, why bother now?
    • oefrha 6y ago
      > why bother now? Of course I can’t answer that question, it’s not like I’m particularly perturbed by minorities having 10 kids. (I am in general perturbed by people giving birth to many children without the means to properly support and educate them, though. This is a problem in many parts of the world.) My point is either one child policy was a genocide against the ethnic majority (which would frankly be ridiculous) or this one is not a genocide against an ethnic minority. Pretty sure whether the two occurred at the exact same time isn’t a factor in the cited definition.
• Aperocky 6y ago
  > China desperately needs more babies. No it doesn't. Countries needs to stop depending on more people and pushing the demographic challenges to the next generation.
• goatinaboat 6y ago
  China desperately needs more babies. China desperately needs more female babies to be precise. The one-child policy coupled with certain cultural quirks resulted in 50-60M "excess" men, who will never find a partner, and unhealthy competition for the rest.
  • balola 6y ago
    Population decline is more of economic reasons.