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I wonder, if I play this video during a walk in the nearby mountain in Japan, will the song be picked up by the local species? The scientists would have a new m

I wonder, if I play this video during a walk in the nearby mountain in Japan, will the song be picked up by the local species? The scientists would have a new mystery on their hands lol!

xoa 6y ago
>if I play this video during a walk in the nearby mountain in Japan I know you're probably joking here, but since it's an important area of honest lack of knowledge I really want to point: please please don't ever do this everyone. Not just this video specifically but play any bird song at all outside. Many of the guide apps these days for example have collections of bird songs for each species as another aid in identification, and sometimes people play them to try to attract said birds to see them. But this can genuinely screw things up for a few poor birds and be another pebble of human caused misery added onto species in trouble. Birds use song in part as a gauge for health and thus mating and territory. This is intuitive if you think about it: to produce more, better song requires a strong healthy respiratory system, syrinx and so on. But no bird can match the output of speakers, and recorded song samples are often chosen for being particularly clear and high quality. So if you play it, females may spend their time searching around for this incredible magnificent perfect specimen of birdliness who doesn't exist, and refuse to mate with other males. And other males themselves may just leave the territory. If you've got a single well fit earphone or something of that order and play at low volume that can work, or else make recordings of the songs then replay them and try to identify them after getting back indoors. But all those songs are just for show and fun, they're an important part of bird life cycles, so please be careful to enjoy them without disrupting them.
- henearkr 6y ago
  Don't worry I was joking, but thank you because I was not conscious of the part when the speaker becomes the unrivaled imaginary male. In any case if there is any chance of changing the traditional song of bird species, I would feel like this is akin to introducing an alien species on a new continent, and that sounds like a terrible idea, so I would avoid doing that by any means.
  - xoa 6y ago
    Thank you too! I didn't mean to single you out or anything, and I don't think most people who play songs to attract birds have the slightest malicious intentions. They just think they're giving it a call, and once it sees humans it'll leave and forget about it. It's just a matter of education, not everyone realizes it can actually be quite serious, which is why I wanted to bring it up. It's almost more tragic when someone who truly likes birds and may well advocate for bird-friendly measures and consideration elsewhere accidentally ends up baiting them.
- xwdv 6y ago
  This is similar to what happens with humans. Females will use an app to quickly scroll through a lot of men, but because they are presented with so many options they will gravitate only toward the top tier men. But the top tier men can only be with so many females, so the majority of females will not get the top tier. However, their standards will still be raised and they will not settle for someone lower. So females will continue searching for this perfect specimen of men and refuse to mate with other males. The other males end up leaving the app and revenue is lost.
  - tasuki 6y ago
    > males end up leaving the app and revenue is lost The real tragedy.
  - jimmaswell 6y ago
    Exactly what happened to me throughout all of college. No point even trying with the world this situation has created. Maybe the more socially responsible thing for developers of these apps to do is only show a limited number of men to pick from, penalize the rankings of high performers, and boost the rankings of poor performers.
    - xwdv 6y ago
      What years were you in college? What were the top dating apps then?
      - jimmaswell 6y ago
        graduated a few years ago, tinder and okcupid I think
  - staticman2 6y ago
    In the real world people seem to still be reproducing and mating and marrying. So no, this story of women no longer pairing with men due to apps making them picker doesn't ring true.
swader999 6y ago
I played it for my cat. He really liked it.

I wonder, if I play this video during a walk in the nearby mountain in Japan, will the song be picked up by the local species? The scientists would have a new mystery on their hands lol!

xoa 6y ago

>if I play this video during a walk in the nearby mountain in Japan I know you're probably joking here, but since it's an important area of honest lack of knowledge I really want to point: please please don't ever do this everyone. Not just this video specifically but play any bird song at all outside. Many of the guide apps these days for example have collections of bird songs for each species as another aid in identification, and sometimes people play them to try to attract said birds to see them. But this can genuinely screw things up for a few poor birds and be another pebble of human caused misery added onto species in trouble. Birds use song in part as a gauge for health and thus mating and territory. This is intuitive if you think about it: to produce more, better song requires a strong healthy respiratory system, syrinx and so on. But no bird can match the output of speakers, and recorded song samples are often chosen for being particularly clear and high quality. So if you play it, females may spend their time searching around for this incredible magnificent perfect specimen of birdliness who doesn't exist, and refuse to mate with other males. And other males themselves may just leave the territory. If you've got a single well fit earphone or something of that order and play at low volume that can work, or else make recordings of the songs then replay them and try to identify them after getting back indoors. But all those songs are just for show and fun, they're an important part of bird life cycles, so please be careful to enjoy them without disrupting them.

henearkr 6y ago
Don't worry I was joking, but thank you because I was not conscious of the part when the speaker becomes the unrivaled imaginary male. In any case if there is any chance of changing the traditional song of bird species, I would feel like this is akin to introducing an alien species on a new continent, and that sounds like a terrible idea, so I would avoid doing that by any means.
- xoa 6y ago
  Thank you too! I didn't mean to single you out or anything, and I don't think most people who play songs to attract birds have the slightest malicious intentions. They just think they're giving it a call, and once it sees humans it'll leave and forget about it. It's just a matter of education, not everyone realizes it can actually be quite serious, which is why I wanted to bring it up. It's almost more tragic when someone who truly likes birds and may well advocate for bird-friendly measures and consideration elsewhere accidentally ends up baiting them.
xwdv 6y ago
This is similar to what happens with humans. Females will use an app to quickly scroll through a lot of men, but because they are presented with so many options they will gravitate only toward the top tier men. But the top tier men can only be with so many females, so the majority of females will not get the top tier. However, their standards will still be raised and they will not settle for someone lower. So females will continue searching for this perfect specimen of men and refuse to mate with other males. The other males end up leaving the app and revenue is lost.
- tasuki 6y ago
  > males end up leaving the app and revenue is lost The real tragedy.
- jimmaswell 6y ago
  Exactly what happened to me throughout all of college. No point even trying with the world this situation has created. Maybe the more socially responsible thing for developers of these apps to do is only show a limited number of men to pick from, penalize the rankings of high performers, and boost the rankings of poor performers.
  - xwdv 6y ago
    What years were you in college? What were the top dating apps then?
    - jimmaswell 6y ago
      graduated a few years ago, tinder and okcupid I think
- staticman2 6y ago
  In the real world people seem to still be reproducing and mating and marrying. So no, this story of women no longer pairing with men due to apps making them picker doesn't ring true.

swader999 6y ago

I played it for my cat. He really liked it.