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You are basically saying "All lives matter." I agree that it happen to everyone. But we are talking about common sexist experience that women encounter. Please

You are basically saying "All lives matter." I agree that it happen to everyone. But we are talking about common sexist experience that women encounter. Please bring your attention back to "Me too", "Black lives matter" and the problem that I am mentioning above that mostly specially happen to women in tech. That's how you can become a good ally.

TomMarius 6y ago
I am not saying that "all lives matter" exactly, I fully believe it's not neccessary to say to you, and if I agreed with you on the causality, I wouldn't be saying anything. I wanted to point out that the perceived reason (gender) might not be the actual cause, as I have a lot of experience with women doing it to other women and men (as I worked outside of IT, in a field where women leaders and women contributors are common). IMHO the actual cause is toxic culture - this stuff is even mentioned in stuff like "unethical life tips" as what to do if you want to be seen as expert, and many people do it unconsciously - not based on gender. I don't see any evidence that sexism causes it in IT - I think it's just toxic perception of what to do as managers/toxic habits that people have. I suspect that our way of educating children in a very restrictive environment is the root cause.
- janiceng 6y ago
  https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim-scott-candor-women-technology-silicon-valley-sexism/99026094/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim... https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipeline/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipe... You can google more about sexism in tech, and how many women get sexual harassed at work. I agree with you about toxic culture. And usually people in power (usually male) in organization influence culture.
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TomMarius 6y ago

I am not saying that "all lives matter" exactly, I fully believe it's not neccessary to say to you, and if I agreed with you on the causality, I wouldn't be saying anything. I wanted to point out that the perceived reason (gender) might not be the actual cause, as I have a lot of experience with women doing it to other women and men (as I worked outside of IT, in a field where women leaders and women contributors are common). IMHO the actual cause is toxic culture - this stuff is even mentioned in stuff like "unethical life tips" as what to do if you want to be seen as expert, and many people do it unconsciously - not based on gender. I don't see any evidence that sexism causes it in IT - I think it's just toxic perception of what to do as managers/toxic habits that people have. I suspect that our way of educating children in a very restrictive environment is the root cause.

janiceng 6y ago
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim-scott-candor-women-technology-silicon-valley-sexism/99026094/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim... https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipeline/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipe... You can google more about sexism in tech, and how many women get sexual harassed at work. I agree with you about toxic culture. And usually people in power (usually male) in organization influence culture.
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