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Ugh. Being part of a tech company, I have been interviewing and working with engineers. The candidate pool doesn’t have a lot of women. The interview panels don

Ugh. Being part of a tech company, I have been interviewing and working with engineers. The candidate pool doesn’t have a lot of women. The interview panels don’t have a lot of women. The eng floor in the building doesn’t have a lot of women. Being the only woman in a meeting room, we all know what has happened next. I always wonder where these women engineers are that people keep saying that they can’t find. There are schools, boot camps, companies, even Facebook groups that you can source women engineers from. But for some reason, women engineers are “hard to find.” I want to make us “easy to find.” I want to see more women on the eng floor. So I started a newsletter to help women find software engineering jobs from companies that actually care to hire them. If you are looking for your next role, we hope this can be a resource. https://www.hirewomeneng.com/ https://www.hirewomeneng.com/ If your company is hiring, we can feature your job listing in the newsletter. https://www.hirewomeneng.com/hiring https://www.hirewomeneng.com/hiring

Nicksil 6y ago
>Being the only woman in a meeting room, we all know what has happened next. What happened next?
- janiceng 6y ago
  Being manterrupt, men repeat your ideas that you just mentioned, men don't look at you during the meeting because they want to listen to your male coworkers more. If you are interested, you can learn more here: https://leanin.org/podcast-episodes/what-its-like-to-be-the-only-one-in-the-room https://leanin.org/podcast-episodes/what-its-like-to-be-the-...
  - TomMarius 6y ago
    Have you considered that the same is happening to everyone? It's just what people that want to be perceived as in power do. It is very normal in any other company outside of IT/engineering (I worked in a building materials company), regardless of gender. I've seen women do it to men, men do it to men, men and women do it to children, etc. > men don't look at you More often than not they don't want to be "seen checking you out" (either because of fear of your reaction, or because of their SO's reaction). And many male engineers are simply shy with women.
    - janiceng 6y ago
      You are basically saying "All lives matter." I agree that it happen to everyone. But we are talking about common sexist experience that women encounter. Please bring your attention back to "Me too", "Black lives matter" and the problem that I am mentioning above that mostly specially happen to women in tech. That's how you can become a good ally.
      - TomMarius 6y ago
        I am not saying that "all lives matter" exactly, I fully believe it's not neccessary to say to you, and if I agreed with you on the causality, I wouldn't be saying anything. I wanted to point out that the perceived reason (gender) might not be the actual cause, as I have a lot of experience with women doing it to other women and men (as I worked outside of IT, in a field where women leaders and women contributors are common). IMHO the actual cause is toxic culture - this stuff is even mentioned in stuff like "unethical life tips" as what to do if you want to be seen as expert, and many people do it unconsciously - not based on gender. I don't see any evidence that sexism causes it in IT - I think it's just toxic perception of what to do as managers/toxic habits that people have. I suspect that our way of educating children in a very restrictive environment is the root cause.
        janiceng 6y ago
        https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim-scott-candor-women-technology-silicon-valley-sexism/99026094/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim... https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipeline/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipe... You can google more about sexism in tech, and how many women get sexual harassed at work. I agree with you about toxic culture. And usually people in power (usually male) in organization influence culture.
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Nicksil 6y ago

>Being the only woman in a meeting room, we all know what has happened next. What happened next?

janiceng 6y ago
Being manterrupt, men repeat your ideas that you just mentioned, men don't look at you during the meeting because they want to listen to your male coworkers more. If you are interested, you can learn more here: https://leanin.org/podcast-episodes/what-its-like-to-be-the-only-one-in-the-room https://leanin.org/podcast-episodes/what-its-like-to-be-the-...
- TomMarius 6y ago
  Have you considered that the same is happening to everyone? It's just what people that want to be perceived as in power do. It is very normal in any other company outside of IT/engineering (I worked in a building materials company), regardless of gender. I've seen women do it to men, men do it to men, men and women do it to children, etc. > men don't look at you More often than not they don't want to be "seen checking you out" (either because of fear of your reaction, or because of their SO's reaction). And many male engineers are simply shy with women.
  - janiceng 6y ago
    You are basically saying "All lives matter." I agree that it happen to everyone. But we are talking about common sexist experience that women encounter. Please bring your attention back to "Me too", "Black lives matter" and the problem that I am mentioning above that mostly specially happen to women in tech. That's how you can become a good ally.
    - TomMarius 6y ago
      I am not saying that "all lives matter" exactly, I fully believe it's not neccessary to say to you, and if I agreed with you on the causality, I wouldn't be saying anything. I wanted to point out that the perceived reason (gender) might not be the actual cause, as I have a lot of experience with women doing it to other women and men (as I worked outside of IT, in a field where women leaders and women contributors are common). IMHO the actual cause is toxic culture - this stuff is even mentioned in stuff like "unethical life tips" as what to do if you want to be seen as expert, and many people do it unconsciously - not based on gender. I don't see any evidence that sexism causes it in IT - I think it's just toxic perception of what to do as managers/toxic habits that people have. I suspect that our way of educating children in a very restrictive environment is the root cause.
      - janiceng 6y ago
        https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim-scott-candor-women-technology-silicon-valley-sexism/99026094/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/columnist/2017/03/24/kim... https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipeline/index.html https://money.cnn.com/2017/08/22/technology/sexism-tech-pipe... You can google more about sexism in tech, and how many women get sexual harassed at work. I agree with you about toxic culture. And usually people in power (usually male) in organization influence culture.
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