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Faster + less bloat

by niftylettuce 6y ago

Faster + less bloat

accelbred 6y ago
Ad blockers' functionality has been limited on chromium due to changes in the extension API, though
- what_ever 6y ago
  I don't think that has taken place yet? Disc: Googler
whycombagator 6y ago
Mostly agree, one nice thing about FF is containers.
- FalconSensei 6y ago
  That's something I really miss on chrome-based browsers
verandaguy 6y ago
Disagree on most points, actually: >Faster, less bloat Stock Firefox doesn't actually have that much bloat, and it's not noticeably slower than Chrome on reasonably modern hardware (i.e.: most page loads are near-instant, same as in Chrome on a good connection). >Extension support for Chromium is way better too Until Google decides that your extension is unworthy of being in their store. This notably happened with Pushbullet quite recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 ... Until Google inexplicably restored it a few days later, but not before lots of accusations were thrown around. --- IMO it's also worth noting that ungoogled-chromium is (obviously) an unofficial fork of Chromium. Google may at any time change Chromium so substantially as to either require Google integration at some fundamental level for even the most basic functionality, causing too much work for such a low-profile effort to continue, or just make Chromium closed-source. With Firefox, that risk doesn't exist because of the business motivations of the company that develops it.
- niftylettuce 6y ago
  As I said in other another comment, I'm a power user. And by power user I mean probably 10x the normal standard of what a 10x power user means. Tooling is everything to me; which is why I prefer this over anything else. I'm very biased.
  - jnkl 6y ago
    What does that even mean? Ten times? Tooling is everything?
    - johntash 6y ago
      When it comes to a browser, I'm curious as well. I often end up with 100+ tabs in firefox before I close them all. I don't think think I'd consider that being a power user, but would a 10x power user simply mean someone with over 1,000 tabs open? I haven't used Chrome regularly in the last year or so, but it would get noticeably slow by the time I had 3-4 windows with 10-20 tabs each. Firefox hasn't really had that issue yet. Years ago though, Chrome was noticeably faster than Firefox. That changed (IMO at least) at some point in the last few years.
      - McAtNite 6y ago
        I use Firefox day to day, but if I was a “power user” and picking apart web traffic everyday I’d probably use Chromium. The dev tools in it are way better than the ones built in Firefox.
        bad_user 6y ago
        In what way are Chrome's dev tools better? I got used to Firefox's dev tools and can't find my way around in Chrome's.
        imtringued 6y ago
        That's just pure muscle memory. I personally dislike the chrome tools.
moonchild 6y ago
Firefox can run chrome extensions.

Faster + less bloat

accelbred 6y ago

Ad blockers' functionality has been limited on chromium due to changes in the extension API, though

what_ever 6y ago
I don't think that has taken place yet? Disc: Googler

whycombagator 6y ago

Mostly agree, one nice thing about FF is containers.

FalconSensei 6y ago
That's something I really miss on chrome-based browsers

verandaguy 6y ago

Disagree on most points, actually: >Faster, less bloat Stock Firefox doesn't actually have that much bloat, and it's not noticeably slower than Chrome on reasonably modern hardware (i.e.: most page loads are near-instant, same as in Chrome on a good connection). >Extension support for Chromium is way better too Until Google decides that your extension is unworthy of being in their store. This notably happened with Pushbullet quite recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23168874 ... Until Google inexplicably restored it a few days later, but not before lots of accusations were thrown around. --- IMO it's also worth noting that ungoogled-chromium is (obviously) an unofficial fork of Chromium. Google may at any time change Chromium so substantially as to either require Google integration at some fundamental level for even the most basic functionality, causing too much work for such a low-profile effort to continue, or just make Chromium closed-source. With Firefox, that risk doesn't exist because of the business motivations of the company that develops it.

niftylettuce 6y ago
As I said in other another comment, I'm a power user. And by power user I mean probably 10x the normal standard of what a 10x power user means. Tooling is everything to me; which is why I prefer this over anything else. I'm very biased.
- jnkl 6y ago
  What does that even mean? Ten times? Tooling is everything?
  - johntash 6y ago
    When it comes to a browser, I'm curious as well. I often end up with 100+ tabs in firefox before I close them all. I don't think think I'd consider that being a power user, but would a 10x power user simply mean someone with over 1,000 tabs open? I haven't used Chrome regularly in the last year or so, but it would get noticeably slow by the time I had 3-4 windows with 10-20 tabs each. Firefox hasn't really had that issue yet. Years ago though, Chrome was noticeably faster than Firefox. That changed (IMO at least) at some point in the last few years.
    - McAtNite 6y ago
      I use Firefox day to day, but if I was a “power user” and picking apart web traffic everyday I’d probably use Chromium. The dev tools in it are way better than the ones built in Firefox.
      - bad_user 6y ago
        In what way are Chrome's dev tools better? I got used to Firefox's dev tools and can't find my way around in Chrome's.
      - imtringued 6y ago
        That's just pure muscle memory. I personally dislike the chrome tools.

moonchild 6y ago

Firefox can run chrome extensions.