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> AI predicts effective depression treatment based on brainwave patterns I don't believe a signal thing about this. Depression detected through brainwaves - o

> AI predicts effective depression treatment based on brainwave patterns I don't believe a signal thing about this. Depression detected through brainwaves - out of this world amazing, cutting edge breakthrough. Knowing what sort of depression - out of this world amazing, cutting edge breakthrough. Knowing how to treat it - out of this world amazing, cutting edge breakthrough. Using "AI" - out of this world amazing, cutting edge breakthrough. Each of these are billion $ breakthroughs.

MaximumYComb 6y ago
>>"We know that depression is very heterogenous, and that there are at least 1,000 unique combinations of symptoms that can be diagnosed as depression," said Williams, who is the director of Stanford's Center for Precision Mental Health and Wellness. "We've found that brainwave measurements can be used to help identify which particular symptoms change with antidepressant treatment and which do not." They're not claiming to detect depression, I don't think there is "sorts" of depression. They're measuring a change in symptoms to evaluate a medicines usefulness. The headline is misleading but I do feel their work has merit. Years ago I had an isolated Major Depressive Episode. It's clear to me that during that period of time there was something different about my brain.
- nostrebored 6y ago
  They're measuring a change in -- self reported -- symptoms to evaluate a medicine's usefulness. If SSRIs primary function is increasing indifference, a personality inventory on sadness will still turn up as improved if the patient cares less about it. Saying that this is a treatment of the symptom is confounding effects and could pave the way for decades of poor science. And that's assuming that the data is interpretable in the way that they think it is and that it's not more akin to fMRIs.
pjc50 6y ago
As the saying goes, "huge if true". All of these are very under-determined, and depression is frequently misdiagnosed as or instead of conditions like ADHD, bipolar, and autism.

MaximumYComb 6y ago

>>"We know that depression is very heterogenous, and that there are at least 1,000 unique combinations of symptoms that can be diagnosed as depression," said Williams, who is the director of Stanford's Center for Precision Mental Health and Wellness. "We've found that brainwave measurements can be used to help identify which particular symptoms change with antidepressant treatment and which do not." They're not claiming to detect depression, I don't think there is "sorts" of depression. They're measuring a change in symptoms to evaluate a medicines usefulness. The headline is misleading but I do feel their work has merit. Years ago I had an isolated Major Depressive Episode. It's clear to me that during that period of time there was something different about my brain.

nostrebored 6y ago
They're measuring a change in -- self reported -- symptoms to evaluate a medicine's usefulness. If SSRIs primary function is increasing indifference, a personality inventory on sadness will still turn up as improved if the patient cares less about it. Saying that this is a treatment of the symptom is confounding effects and could pave the way for decades of poor science. And that's assuming that the data is interpretable in the way that they think it is and that it's not more akin to fMRIs.

pjc50 6y ago

As the saying goes, "huge if true". All of these are very under-determined, and depression is frequently misdiagnosed as or instead of conditions like ADHD, bipolar, and autism.