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How many people have revolutionary Marxists murdered in the USA in the last 25-50 years? I'm sure if you dig you could find one, maybe two. If you dig into far

by api 6y ago

How many people have revolutionary Marxists murdered in the USA in the last 25-50 years? I'm sure if you dig you could find one, maybe two. If you dig into far right ideologues involved in murders and shootings you will find hundreds and hundreds. I am not a fan of revolutionary Marxism, but in terms of actual danger to people I don't see them as nearly as much of a risk. They also have far less funding than the extreme right and seem to be far fewer in number. If revolutionary Marxists start killing people or conducting acts of domestic terror, then yes ban those people. Let me know next time a revolutionary Marxist shoots up a school.

type0 6y ago
Not so sure about the US of A, but in Germany there was RAF, it is widely known. Just because it isn't big in US doesn't mean it's harmless. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
CWuestefeld 6y ago
Why limit this to the USA and 25-50 years? If we can look globally, even within 50 years, Marxists (e.g., Khmer Rouge, and Mao's Cultural Revolution) have killed many orders of magnitude more people than have racial separatists or supremacists. If we look back further, you at least pick up the Nazis on the racial supremacist side, but that still doesn't get you within an order of magnitude of Mao, Stalin, and friends. Within the USA, the Constitution has protected us, but we can still see pernicious effects of Marxism. It's harder to quantify this, but I don't think there's a clear case that either side is "winning".
- api 6y ago
  The topic was specifically Marxists in Western democracies today. Again, I am not a fan of hard core authoritarian Marxism and would be concerned if these people had real power or larger numbers and serious funding. I was simply pointing out that as of today they are few, lack funding or serious organization, and seem to advocate and enact violence much less often than the extreme right. They can be just as trollish though, I'll give them that. BTW /r/ChapoTrapHouse was also banned for advocacy of violence and trolling/brigading. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapo_Trap_House https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapo_Trap_House

by api 6y ago

type0 6y ago

Not so sure about the US of A, but in Germany there was RAF, it is widely known. Just because it isn't big in US doesn't mean it's harmless. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

CWuestefeld 6y ago

Why limit this to the USA and 25-50 years? If we can look globally, even within 50 years, Marxists (e.g., Khmer Rouge, and Mao's Cultural Revolution) have killed many orders of magnitude more people than have racial separatists or supremacists. If we look back further, you at least pick up the Nazis on the racial supremacist side, but that still doesn't get you within an order of magnitude of Mao, Stalin, and friends. Within the USA, the Constitution has protected us, but we can still see pernicious effects of Marxism. It's harder to quantify this, but I don't think there's a clear case that either side is "winning".

api 6y ago
The topic was specifically Marxists in Western democracies today. Again, I am not a fan of hard core authoritarian Marxism and would be concerned if these people had real power or larger numbers and serious funding. I was simply pointing out that as of today they are few, lack funding or serious organization, and seem to advocate and enact violence much less often than the extreme right. They can be just as trollish though, I'll give them that. BTW /r/ChapoTrapHouse was also banned for advocacy of violence and trolling/brigading. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapo_Trap_House https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapo_Trap_House