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I wonder what the venn diagram looks like of those who enjoy the readability of this blog and use emacs

tgbugs 6y ago
Honestly at this point it is usually easier for me to read the raw org-mode source file in an emacs buffer than to wade through whatever random web rendering and author has picked when they export to html.
billwear 6y ago
thanks!
ciarannolan 6y ago
This is too peak HN for me.
- jeppesen-io 6y ago
  I don't know if this is an insult or not but gave me a laugh. Cheers :)
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    haha, it's not :) Just making a joke that HN loves 1. emacs and 2. websites that are just a .txt file.
    - mercer 6y ago
      and jokes involving Venn diagrams.
- _emacsomancer_ 6y ago
  Lisp all the way down...
iLemming 6y ago
If you use eww in Emacs, the readability of that post would be exactly as you wanted it to be, given that you've spent enough time configuring and tweaking your Emacs theme. Emacs (in general) is not for everyone - but it can be that perfect tool, that is truly perfect just for you.
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komali2 6y ago
It'd be hard to argue that it ISN'T "readable." Maybe some would think it's ugly (I don't), but objectively speaking it's ticking every "readability" box.
- kingnight 6y ago
  Legible might be a better word? The giant, viewport spanning, line-width mixed with dense line-height makes it harder on eye for some people, myself included.
- smichel17 6y ago
  On mobile it's very difficult to read because the font is too small and line width is too long, so I have to choose between squinting or scrolling back and forth and back and forth and.. (or use Firefox's reader mode). I don't mind plain text, but this site is several orders of magnitude harder to read than http://motherfuckingwebsite.com http://motherfuckingwebsite.com
  - komali2 6y ago
    Woah really? It rendered just like motherfuckingwebsite for me on mobile. edit: I was using readermode lol. The site does not look good at all on mobile.
  - shanemhansen 6y ago
    On mobile it's really easy for me to read. Don't is at a natural size and lines wrap appropriately. [edit] Oh I see it looks bad in Firefox on mobile. Fair enough.
    - lordgrenville 6y ago
      It's pretty uncomfortable to read on desktop, too - at least on my large monitor - since there are no margins.
    - smichel17 6y ago
      I do most of my HN browsing in the app [Materialistic], so I usually first look at articles using the built-in webview, then open externally in Firefox if that doesn't render correctly (which is unfortunately common. Not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame either the app or webview; for example, Wikipedia is served as a static site but renders as a blank page). In this case, they both rendered the same way (but was able to read the page with FF's reader mode). [Materialistic]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialist...
pkulak 6y ago
A single circle, are you saying?
abnry 6y ago
For want of a margin the kingdom was lost. I hate no margins and use the Goyo vim plugin to make my editing experience more pleasurable.
- bbarnett 6y ago
  I am always looking for a better editing experience, who knows what I might be missing. Yet, after visiting Goyo's github, reading the README, looking about, I still have zero idea what this plugin does. How/what is made distraction free, by this plugin? How is vim distracting prior to its use? A shout out to all, in a thread where the word umwelt is used... actually explain to others, what your code is actually for. Not just some marketish, slogany statement such as "Distraction-free writing in Vim". (Some might say, hey.. just look at the code. Naw. I have better things to do, than delve that far into a whim. I don't have the time. Literally, not to spend on all the quick looks I might take as such links. Say what your stuff is, people. Don't make it a mystery...) Abnry, may I ask, what you use this plugin for?
  - abnry 6y ago
    Make the terminal full screen then run Goyo for a distraction free experience. It adds margins on right and left like in Word to center the text, except in vim there isn't a toolbar on top or gray space on the sides.
jyriand 6y ago
There must be an package where you can give url and emacs will display the article in org-mode format. Even better would be a package for reading hacker-news, surely there must be one. EDIT: In fact there is a package called hackernews. You can open links inside emacs using text-based browser. No readability issues there.
sva_ 6y ago
It would logically most likely be two circles intersecting, as Venn diagrams don't usually make a statement about the sizes of the sets.
oh_sigh 6y ago
The template seems designed for mobile. It looks pretty good on my phone but worse on my laptop
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Honestly at this point it is usually easier for me to read the raw org-mode source file in an emacs buffer than to wade through whatever random web rendering and author has picked when they export to html.

billwear 6y ago

thanks!

ciarannolan 6y ago

This is too peak HN for me.

jeppesen-io 6y ago
I don't know if this is an insult or not but gave me a laugh. Cheers :)
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  haha, it's not :) Just making a joke that HN loves 1. emacs and 2. websites that are just a .txt file.
  - mercer 6y ago
    and jokes involving Venn diagrams.
_emacsomancer_ 6y ago
Lisp all the way down...

iLemming 6y ago

If you use eww in Emacs, the readability of that post would be exactly as you wanted it to be, given that you've spent enough time configuring and tweaking your Emacs theme. Emacs (in general) is not for everyone - but it can be that perfect tool, that is truly perfect just for you.

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komali2 6y ago

It'd be hard to argue that it ISN'T "readable." Maybe some would think it's ugly (I don't), but objectively speaking it's ticking every "readability" box.

kingnight 6y ago
Legible might be a better word? The giant, viewport spanning, line-width mixed with dense line-height makes it harder on eye for some people, myself included.
smichel17 6y ago
On mobile it's very difficult to read because the font is too small and line width is too long, so I have to choose between squinting or scrolling back and forth and back and forth and.. (or use Firefox's reader mode). I don't mind plain text, but this site is several orders of magnitude harder to read than http://motherfuckingwebsite.com http://motherfuckingwebsite.com
- komali2 6y ago
  Woah really? It rendered just like motherfuckingwebsite for me on mobile. edit: I was using readermode lol. The site does not look good at all on mobile.
- shanemhansen 6y ago
  On mobile it's really easy for me to read. Don't is at a natural size and lines wrap appropriately. [edit] Oh I see it looks bad in Firefox on mobile. Fair enough.
  - lordgrenville 6y ago
    It's pretty uncomfortable to read on desktop, too - at least on my large monitor - since there are no margins.
  - smichel17 6y ago
    I do most of my HN browsing in the app [Materialistic], so I usually first look at articles using the built-in webview, then open externally in Firefox if that doesn't render correctly (which is unfortunately common. Not sure why, but I'm inclined to blame either the app or webview; for example, Wikipedia is served as a static site but renders as a blank page). In this case, they both rendered the same way (but was able to read the page with FF's reader mode). [Materialistic]: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialistic/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialist...

pkulak 6y ago

A single circle, are you saying?

abnry 6y ago

For want of a margin the kingdom was lost. I hate no margins and use the Goyo vim plugin to make my editing experience more pleasurable.

bbarnett 6y ago
I am always looking for a better editing experience, who knows what I might be missing. Yet, after visiting Goyo's github, reading the README, looking about, I still have zero idea what this plugin does. How/what is made distraction free, by this plugin? How is vim distracting prior to its use? A shout out to all, in a thread where the word umwelt is used... actually explain to others, what your code is actually for. Not just some marketish, slogany statement such as "Distraction-free writing in Vim". (Some might say, hey.. just look at the code. Naw. I have better things to do, than delve that far into a whim. I don't have the time. Literally, not to spend on all the quick looks I might take as such links. Say what your stuff is, people. Don't make it a mystery...) Abnry, may I ask, what you use this plugin for?
- abnry 6y ago
  Make the terminal full screen then run Goyo for a distraction free experience. It adds margins on right and left like in Word to center the text, except in vim there isn't a toolbar on top or gray space on the sides.

jyriand 6y ago

There must be an package where you can give url and emacs will display the article in org-mode format. Even better would be a package for reading hacker-news, surely there must be one. EDIT: In fact there is a package called hackernews. You can open links inside emacs using text-based browser. No readability issues there.

sva_ 6y ago

It would logically most likely be two circles intersecting, as Venn diagrams don't usually make a statement about the sizes of the sets.

oh_sigh 6y ago

The template seems designed for mobile. It looks pretty good on my phone but worse on my laptop

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