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Did you move out of bay area completely, or to a place more affordable. Am in cupertino and been thinking should I move or not?

DevKoala 6y ago
If you can work remotely, I’d recommend it. I did that in summer 2018 and I don’t regret it. Also, it seems that the value of property in the cities adjacent to the focal points of the Bay Area is going up. The value of my house went up 7% while the value of property in the main cities is depreciating.
535188B17C93743 6y ago
I'm originally from the Midwest, so I moved back with my parents for a bit of time. Luckily, I'm a massive minimalist so it was easy for me to just pack up and drive across the country without any issues. I'd like to come back, but my company has consider allowing me to stay here. If it's with the same pay, it would be a no-brainer. But I do love/will miss the Bay Area. I'll probably be back when I'm a bit more financially stable.
- dehrmann 6y ago
  I think there's still a nationwide housing shortage, not just in urban centers. In SF and NYC, this means you get people making six figures with 3 roommates. Moving out doesn't change that there's a shortage, but it spreads it around. Some people will move in with their parents, and some will hopefully keep their coastal salary, move somewhere cheaper, and push lower income people into roommate situations. I'm expecting to hear some low-level gripes across the country about rising housing costs. Nothing like coastal levels, but levels people there might not be used to.
  - 535188B17C93743 6y ago
    It's already spreading here, unfortunately. Ten years ago, folks in the closest metro area to me used to be able to rent for $500/mo. Now, the equivalent places would be $1200/mo. Buying has gone up even more. It's great to see the place grow and become popular, but its affordability made it so charming and live-able.
    - jdhn 6y ago
      This sounds like you live near Ann Arbor, except prices there are even higher than $1200/mo.
      - 535188B17C93743 6y ago
        Columbus, Ohio (err, Flavortown?). But yeah, same thing. Ann Arbor is wonderful though... completely understand the prices.
- gentleman11 6y ago
  Curious if you are leaving a lot of friends behind; or rather, how easy it was to make persistent friends when you arrived in the Bay Area. I find it’s hard to meet people where I live, most of my friends are from school
  - 535188B17C93743 6y ago
    I definitely am, but I've also had tons of friends leave me behind in the several years I've lived there. It's a transient city––I think everyone kind of just gets that friends there are short-lived. And I keep in contact with folks from a distance.
    - sangupta 6y ago
      I agree - my friends have left as well. Visits on holidays is the next best thing.
- vmception 6y ago
  > But I do love/will miss the Bay Area. I'll probably be back I was going to ask, what is an ideal place for you? Like let's say cities lose their allure because clusters of event venues won't exist and nobody has the capacity to meet new people even if watering holes did implement distancing, since everyone is distanced. As someone that didn't retreat to my parents house and has a new favela in my SF neighborhood amidst all sorts of chaos, I've been drawing a blank for the last 4 months
  - 535188B17C93743 6y ago
    >what is an ideal place for you? If I knew, I'd be there :D Unfortunately, I have no idea. I like my family and the cost of living around where I live (Midwest), I love the hustle and bustle of the Northeast, and I like the outdoors and political vibe of the West Coast. Even lived in Germany for a bit in college and loved that. Open to suggestions, haha
    - toomuchtodo 6y ago
      Asheville, North Carolina
    - throwaway_12351 6y ago
      London! I moved to SF from London, you get bit of everything! :)
      - hckr_news 6y ago
        Tell me more. I’m also in the Midwest US. Still early in my career. I’d consider London but the cost of living scares me. Also the whole Brexit thing.
        throwaway_12351 6y ago
        Don't worry much about Brexit, I was quite worried about it myself and I lost the chance to buy a house at a cheaper price. Brexit is turning out to be quite positive for the UK, and the media claims that the companies will move out is backfiring and they are moving into the UK now. I have lived in SF / Boston / London / Portland, and I think London has the bits of all. Comparing to the west coast, London has equal or better food culture, similar political vibe but much more diverse yet localized within the city, the hustle and bustle of living in a true city, the architectural beauty and most importantly quite nicely located with accessible sites of natural beauty within the UK and Europe. I think the only thing that is negative about London vs SF is the weather :-/ Also, it's not a very friendly place to move at the start of your career, quite closed for newbies and an old boys club so that's a caveat.

DevKoala 6y ago

If you can work remotely, I’d recommend it. I did that in summer 2018 and I don’t regret it. Also, it seems that the value of property in the cities adjacent to the focal points of the Bay Area is going up. The value of my house went up 7% while the value of property in the main cities is depreciating.

535188B17C93743 6y ago

I'm originally from the Midwest, so I moved back with my parents for a bit of time. Luckily, I'm a massive minimalist so it was easy for me to just pack up and drive across the country without any issues. I'd like to come back, but my company has consider allowing me to stay here. If it's with the same pay, it would be a no-brainer. But I do love/will miss the Bay Area. I'll probably be back when I'm a bit more financially stable.

dehrmann 6y ago
I think there's still a nationwide housing shortage, not just in urban centers. In SF and NYC, this means you get people making six figures with 3 roommates. Moving out doesn't change that there's a shortage, but it spreads it around. Some people will move in with their parents, and some will hopefully keep their coastal salary, move somewhere cheaper, and push lower income people into roommate situations. I'm expecting to hear some low-level gripes across the country about rising housing costs. Nothing like coastal levels, but levels people there might not be used to.
- 535188B17C93743 6y ago
  It's already spreading here, unfortunately. Ten years ago, folks in the closest metro area to me used to be able to rent for $500/mo. Now, the equivalent places would be $1200/mo. Buying has gone up even more. It's great to see the place grow and become popular, but its affordability made it so charming and live-able.
  - jdhn 6y ago
    This sounds like you live near Ann Arbor, except prices there are even higher than $1200/mo.
    - 535188B17C93743 6y ago
      Columbus, Ohio (err, Flavortown?). But yeah, same thing. Ann Arbor is wonderful though... completely understand the prices.
gentleman11 6y ago
Curious if you are leaving a lot of friends behind; or rather, how easy it was to make persistent friends when you arrived in the Bay Area. I find it’s hard to meet people where I live, most of my friends are from school
- 535188B17C93743 6y ago
  I definitely am, but I've also had tons of friends leave me behind in the several years I've lived there. It's a transient city––I think everyone kind of just gets that friends there are short-lived. And I keep in contact with folks from a distance.
  - sangupta 6y ago
    I agree - my friends have left as well. Visits on holidays is the next best thing.
vmception 6y ago
> But I do love/will miss the Bay Area. I'll probably be back I was going to ask, what is an ideal place for you? Like let's say cities lose their allure because clusters of event venues won't exist and nobody has the capacity to meet new people even if watering holes did implement distancing, since everyone is distanced. As someone that didn't retreat to my parents house and has a new favela in my SF neighborhood amidst all sorts of chaos, I've been drawing a blank for the last 4 months
- 535188B17C93743 6y ago
  >what is an ideal place for you? If I knew, I'd be there :D Unfortunately, I have no idea. I like my family and the cost of living around where I live (Midwest), I love the hustle and bustle of the Northeast, and I like the outdoors and political vibe of the West Coast. Even lived in Germany for a bit in college and loved that. Open to suggestions, haha
  - toomuchtodo 6y ago
    Asheville, North Carolina
  - throwaway_12351 6y ago
    London! I moved to SF from London, you get bit of everything! :)
    - hckr_news 6y ago
      Tell me more. I’m also in the Midwest US. Still early in my career. I’d consider London but the cost of living scares me. Also the whole Brexit thing.
      - throwaway_12351 6y ago
        Don't worry much about Brexit, I was quite worried about it myself and I lost the chance to buy a house at a cheaper price. Brexit is turning out to be quite positive for the UK, and the media claims that the companies will move out is backfiring and they are moving into the UK now. I have lived in SF / Boston / London / Portland, and I think London has the bits of all. Comparing to the west coast, London has equal or better food culture, similar political vibe but much more diverse yet localized within the city, the hustle and bustle of living in a true city, the architectural beauty and most importantly quite nicely located with accessible sites of natural beauty within the UK and Europe. I think the only thing that is negative about London vs SF is the weather :-/ Also, it's not a very friendly place to move at the start of your career, quite closed for newbies and an old boys club so that's a caveat.