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As someone who typically votes conservative, this is the kind of ignorance that makes me seriously reconsider my stances. This would be throwing the baby out w

by xedrac 6y ago

As someone who typically votes conservative, this is the kind of ignorance that makes me seriously reconsider my stances. This would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and go a long way toward emulating China. No thank you! Time to double down on encryption efforts and Tor usage.

api 6y ago
There is plenty of room for a sane, intelligent conservative position in our political landscape and discourse. Where is it? There are over a dozen congressional candidates today (all on the R side AFAIK) who espouse or at least dog whistle to the Qanon cult. Imagine if PETA, Earth First!, and the most unreasonable histrionic "social justice warrior" types took over the Democratic Party. That's where the Republican Party is going if it isn't there already. Where's Eisenhower or even Reagan?
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hedora 6y ago
I hate to break it to you, but if this bill bothers you, then you’re best bet is to vote for the progressives. Welcome to the left wing, comrade. :-) Over the years, I’ve watched most of my conservative friends defect to the democrats as the Republican party morphed from “small (but efficient) government” to starting the War on Science and War on the Climate, not to mention all the useless wars against the Middle East, etc. At the same time, the Democratic party also veered to the right, and I’ve watched my liberal friends (and now, some of those conservative defectors) move to the progressive part of the democratic party. It’s not that people’s opinions have changed, it’s that the parties have sold out their core values to appease big donors. Prior generations in the US became more conservative as they aged. I don’t see that happening with my generation. Between that and demographic shifts, the Republican party is representing a rapidly shrinking minority of the population. I just wish the senate wasn’t so skewed toward conservative states and against city dwellers. 42 votes are controlled by a group of people the size of California. Worse, the senate gets to appoint federal judges, so a minority of the US is electing the people that have exclusive control over court appointments (they simply refuse to appoint judges when there is a Democrat in the white house) and they’ve packed them with radicals.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  > I hate to break it to you, but if this bill bothers you, then you’re best bet is to vote for the progressives. Haha no. They both suck. It's only politically convient > the Democratic party also veered to the right I think you mean the left have veered radically more to the left. > I just wish the senate wasn’t so skewed toward conservative states and against city dwellers. As designed. Really we should go to the way it was supposed to be with the state legislatures choosing senators. > hey simply refuse to appoint judges when there is a Democrat in the white house The democrats will do exactly the same in the reverse situation.

by xedrac 6y ago

api 6y ago

There is plenty of room for a sane, intelligent conservative position in our political landscape and discourse. Where is it? There are over a dozen congressional candidates today (all on the R side AFAIK) who espouse or at least dog whistle to the Qanon cult. Imagine if PETA, Earth First!, and the most unreasonable histrionic "social justice warrior" types took over the Democratic Party. That's where the Republican Party is going if it isn't there already. Where's Eisenhower or even Reagan?

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hedora 6y ago

I hate to break it to you, but if this bill bothers you, then you’re best bet is to vote for the progressives. Welcome to the left wing, comrade. :-) Over the years, I’ve watched most of my conservative friends defect to the democrats as the Republican party morphed from “small (but efficient) government” to starting the War on Science and War on the Climate, not to mention all the useless wars against the Middle East, etc. At the same time, the Democratic party also veered to the right, and I’ve watched my liberal friends (and now, some of those conservative defectors) move to the progressive part of the democratic party. It’s not that people’s opinions have changed, it’s that the parties have sold out their core values to appease big donors. Prior generations in the US became more conservative as they aged. I don’t see that happening with my generation. Between that and demographic shifts, the Republican party is representing a rapidly shrinking minority of the population. I just wish the senate wasn’t so skewed toward conservative states and against city dwellers. 42 votes are controlled by a group of people the size of California. Worse, the senate gets to appoint federal judges, so a minority of the US is electing the people that have exclusive control over court appointments (they simply refuse to appoint judges when there is a Democrat in the white house) and they’ve packed them with radicals.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
> I hate to break it to you, but if this bill bothers you, then you’re best bet is to vote for the progressives. Haha no. They both suck. It's only politically convient > the Democratic party also veered to the right I think you mean the left have veered radically more to the left. > I just wish the senate wasn’t so skewed toward conservative states and against city dwellers. As designed. Really we should go to the way it was supposed to be with the state legislatures choosing senators. > hey simply refuse to appoint judges when there is a Democrat in the white house The democrats will do exactly the same in the reverse situation.