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Well i would not call that extremism...unless they check also the Reindeer's. And yes i wish....knock on wood EDIT: >Amnesty International carefully trying to

by nix23 6y ago

Well i would not call that extremism...unless they check also the Reindeer's. And yes i wish....knock on wood EDIT: >Amnesty International carefully trying to tell them to stop. Why has AI a problem with checking peoples on a border? EDIT2: I really don't see anything about that on their site: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/norway/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia...

eitland 6y ago
That was some sloppy writing by me. I've edited my previous post to avoid further confusion. (It is about data traffic, not ordinary customs.)
- nix23 6y ago
  Oh yes that's bad, still did no found anything about that on AI website, maybe you mean the EFF?
  - eitland 6y ago
    Couldn't find the original written answer from them but here are some details (in Norwegian): https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikasjonar/Innstillingar/Stortinget/2019-2020/inns-201920-357l/?all=true https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikas...
- nix23 6y ago
  But take it easy, in Switzerland we want to trow 12 y/o into prisons for being (potentially) a dangerous person (terrorism), not for being a criminal but being potentially one in the future (not far away from a KGB mindset if you ask me)
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    I presume they must have done something like actually preparing a terrorist attack right? It’s hard to decide what to do with children in such a scenario, but I cannot imagine prison is the best solution.
    - nix23 6y ago
      >actually preparing a terrorist attack right? For that we already have a law, planing for a crime. But that law really just means you have sympathy or contact to potentially dangerous persons, or you speak out stuff that could be connected to "terrorism". They even invented a new Word for that (in Germany): Gefährder (a potential dangerous person who did not broke any law...) EDIT: Actually it look's like 12yo don't have to go to prison but have to stay at home.

by nix23 6y ago

eitland 6y ago

That was some sloppy writing by me. I've edited my previous post to avoid further confusion. (It is about data traffic, not ordinary customs.)

nix23 6y ago
Oh yes that's bad, still did no found anything about that on AI website, maybe you mean the EFF?
- eitland 6y ago
  Couldn't find the original written answer from them but here are some details (in Norwegian): https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikasjonar/Innstillingar/Stortinget/2019-2020/inns-201920-357l/?all=true https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikas...
nix23 6y ago
But take it easy, in Switzerland we want to trow 12 y/o into prisons for being (potentially) a dangerous person (terrorism), not for being a criminal but being potentially one in the future (not far away from a KGB mindset if you ask me)
- Aeolun 6y ago
  I presume they must have done something like actually preparing a terrorist attack right? It’s hard to decide what to do with children in such a scenario, but I cannot imagine prison is the best solution.
  - nix23 6y ago
    >actually preparing a terrorist attack right? For that we already have a law, planing for a crime. But that law really just means you have sympathy or contact to potentially dangerous persons, or you speak out stuff that could be connected to "terrorism". They even invented a new Word for that (in Germany): Gefährder (a potential dangerous person who did not broke any law...) EDIT: Actually it look's like 12yo don't have to go to prison but have to stay at home.