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You wish. Norwegian politicians voted to allow police to control everything that crosses the border (edit2:)digitally. Which, in a small country like ours mean

You wish. Norwegian politicians voted to allow police to control everything that crosses the border (edit2:)digitally. Which, in a small country like ours means pretty much everything. Edit: they did it despite the entire (edit3:) IT industry yelling at them and Amnesty International carefully trying to tell them to stop. That said, I guess the last word hasn't been said yet. Also equally bad things have been turned around before and for the first time in my life I feel the urge to participate in politics.

nix23 6y ago
Well i would not call that extremism...unless they check also the Reindeer's. And yes i wish....knock on wood EDIT: >Amnesty International carefully trying to tell them to stop. Why has AI a problem with checking peoples on a border? EDIT2: I really don't see anything about that on their site: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/norway/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia...
- eitland 6y ago
  That was some sloppy writing by me. I've edited my previous post to avoid further confusion. (It is about data traffic, not ordinary customs.)
  - nix23 6y ago
    Oh yes that's bad, still did no found anything about that on AI website, maybe you mean the EFF?
    - eitland 6y ago
      Couldn't find the original written answer from them but here are some details (in Norwegian): https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikasjonar/Innstillingar/Stortinget/2019-2020/inns-201920-357l/?all=true https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikas...
  - nix23 6y ago
    But take it easy, in Switzerland we want to trow 12 y/o into prisons for being (potentially) a dangerous person (terrorism), not for being a criminal but being potentially one in the future (not far away from a KGB mindset if you ask me)
    - Aeolun 6y ago
      I presume they must have done something like actually preparing a terrorist attack right? It’s hard to decide what to do with children in such a scenario, but I cannot imagine prison is the best solution.
      - nix23 6y ago
        >actually preparing a terrorist attack right? For that we already have a law, planing for a crime. But that law really just means you have sympathy or contact to potentially dangerous persons, or you speak out stuff that could be connected to "terrorism". They even invented a new Word for that (in Germany): Gefährder (a potential dangerous person who did not broke any law...) EDIT: Actually it look's like 12yo don't have to go to prison but have to stay at home.
eitland 6y ago
Too late to edit but I might have misunderstood Amnesty Internationals position: According to some politicians Amnesty International liked the proposed law as it would place restrictions on the police. (Emphasis on might as I haven't reread what Amnesty International actually wrote.)

nix23 6y ago

Well i would not call that extremism...unless they check also the Reindeer's. And yes i wish....knock on wood EDIT: >Amnesty International carefully trying to tell them to stop. Why has AI a problem with checking peoples on a border? EDIT2: I really don't see anything about that on their site: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia/norway/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/europe-and-central-asia...

eitland 6y ago
That was some sloppy writing by me. I've edited my previous post to avoid further confusion. (It is about data traffic, not ordinary customs.)
- nix23 6y ago
  Oh yes that's bad, still did no found anything about that on AI website, maybe you mean the EFF?
  - eitland 6y ago
    Couldn't find the original written answer from them but here are some details (in Norwegian): https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikasjonar/Innstillingar/Stortinget/2019-2020/inns-201920-357l/?all=true https://www.stortinget.no/nn/Saker-og-publikasjonar/publikas...
- nix23 6y ago
  But take it easy, in Switzerland we want to trow 12 y/o into prisons for being (potentially) a dangerous person (terrorism), not for being a criminal but being potentially one in the future (not far away from a KGB mindset if you ask me)
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    I presume they must have done something like actually preparing a terrorist attack right? It’s hard to decide what to do with children in such a scenario, but I cannot imagine prison is the best solution.
    - nix23 6y ago
      >actually preparing a terrorist attack right? For that we already have a law, planing for a crime. But that law really just means you have sympathy or contact to potentially dangerous persons, or you speak out stuff that could be connected to "terrorism". They even invented a new Word for that (in Germany): Gefährder (a potential dangerous person who did not broke any law...) EDIT: Actually it look's like 12yo don't have to go to prison but have to stay at home.

eitland 6y ago

Too late to edit but I might have misunderstood Amnesty Internationals position: According to some politicians Amnesty International liked the proposed law as it would place restrictions on the police. (Emphasis on might as I haven't reread what Amnesty International actually wrote.)