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I think you are coming to this point from the wrong angle: if the OP thinks (like I do) that telemetry itself is an invasion of privacy, which data is sent is i
by probably_wrong 6y ago
I think you are coming to this point from the wrong angle: if the OP thinks (like I do) that telemetry itself is an invasion of privacy, which data is sent is irrelevant.
Asking "what data do you think they will exfiltrate?" assumes that the only reason to oppose telemetry is "they might see something I want to keep hidden". But, as it's often said when it comes to other people attempting to cross your personal boundaries, "'No' is a complete answer".
- bergstromm466 6y ago> as it's often said when it comes to other people attempting to cross your personal boundaries, "'No' is a complete answer". I love that, so important! Have people seen the Tea consent video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8
- Dylan16807 6y agoHmm. That's a cute way to talk through the ideas. But if someone asked for actual tea, then decided they just didn't want it, it would be okay to be a little pushy. Not hugely pushy, but notably more than with 'tea'.
- bergstromm466 6y ago> be a little pushy Eh? Why would that be ok? I think it's worth asking them why they don't want it anymore. If they continue to say no, do you really think it is ok to start pouring it down their throat? Consent can be revoked at any point in time. For what it's worth I think most cultures today are crap at consent. I think many of us are victim to a pre-#MeToo culture where sexual harrasment was somewhat more socially 'acceptable' or 'accepted' [1][2]. I think of the memes of women who seem uncomfortable when Biden touches them. Dr. Bessel van der Kolk talks about his desire for a 'trauma-conscious' society. To me there is no denying that often we have been hurt, and that there is not enough support for many people out there. I believe we don't get the support that we would need to heal from these things. Walking around hurt and unhealed is unfortunately the norm. > That's a cute way to talk through the ideas Rape and sexual assualt are very common, so I think this video is more than 'cute'; it's essential. I hope we start showing this to kids at a younger age, to help them grow boundaries early on. This also concerns consent for non-sexual contact such as hugs, or just any other type of physical contact with another person. [1] women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoP8VpbpYI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWoP8VpbpYI [2] men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2_yQw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc6QxD2_yQw
- Dylan16807 6y agoPouring tea down someone's throat is more than "a little pushy". I mean that "come on, you got me to make this tea, at least have a sip" is perfectly fine to say about actual tea. In the analogy, doing that is not good. (Assume this is a situation where they don't have a specific reason, so asking why they don't want it is completely nonproductive.)
- bergstromm466 6y agoYeah fair point, I see what you mean
- AlexandrB 6y agoThis is a great way to frame the issue. I like to think of it like this passage from Julius Caesar: > DECIUS BRUTUS: Most mighty Caesar, let me know some cause, Lest I be laugh'd at when I tell them so. > CAESAR: The cause is in my will: I will not come; That is enough to satisfy the senate.
- monkeywork 6y agohow did that end for him again? :)
- BiteCode_dev 6y agoI love the 'No' is a complete answer". I wished I learned that when I was a teen. Now that I use "no" though, I still have people that ask "why" after it. Can't really tell them "this is the way" :)
- deno 6y agoNo. Why? Because. All you need :)
- BiteCode_dev 6y agoCan't argue ^^