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Just what percent of broken laws in the US do you think end up being enforced with guns drawn? And given that subpopulation, have you considered any of current

Just what percent of broken laws in the US do you think end up being enforced with guns drawn? And given that subpopulation, have you considered any of current proposals making the round for nonviolent conflict resolution by specially trained, unarmed mediators?

skellington 6y ago
100% of all enforced laws are BACKED by the THREAT of guns drawn. That doesn't mean it gets there most of the time, but the THREAT is what backs all laws and the reason why people give in most of the time. ALL laws are ultimately backed by the threat of death because ultimately if you don't comply and refuse to ever comply and work your way up the violence ladder, it all ends in death. It amazes me that people don't understand this (though given the current state of education I shouldn't be surprised.) I laugh at the authoritative far left/right who want to disband the police. Who would oppress the population with their policies if there were no police?
- seanhunter 6y ago
  Here in the UK few police have guns and they have to have special training if they want to be licensed to use firearms. Even then, the weapons are kept in a locked safe most of the time rather than being carried by default. There are many other countries that have a similar regime. The idea that you have to constantly threaten deadly force in order to enforce the law is not at all born out in other countries.
  - rs999gti 6y ago
    > The idea that you have to constantly threaten deadly force in order to enforce the law is not at all born out in other countries. It doesn't need to be physical force, it can be taxation, fines, imprisonment, or loss of rights. But force is force.
- relaxing 6y ago
  No white collar criminal expects to get shot over accounting fraud or insider trading. They go quietly, turn themselves in. I do understand the libertarian view of things, the first-principles consideration that ends every conflict in a wild west shootout. But in reality most people want to participate in society, and abide by the social contracts therein. Feel free to consider my original questions, if you want.
rs999gti 6y ago
> Just what percent of broken laws in the US do you think end up being enforced with guns drawn? Why draw a gun and use force by threat? Imprisonment, fines, wage garnishment, loss of rights, etc. are all equally effective ways of enforcing laws.

skellington 6y ago

100% of all enforced laws are BACKED by the THREAT of guns drawn. That doesn't mean it gets there most of the time, but the THREAT is what backs all laws and the reason why people give in most of the time. ALL laws are ultimately backed by the threat of death because ultimately if you don't comply and refuse to ever comply and work your way up the violence ladder, it all ends in death. It amazes me that people don't understand this (though given the current state of education I shouldn't be surprised.) I laugh at the authoritative far left/right who want to disband the police. Who would oppress the population with their policies if there were no police?

seanhunter 6y ago
Here in the UK few police have guns and they have to have special training if they want to be licensed to use firearms. Even then, the weapons are kept in a locked safe most of the time rather than being carried by default. There are many other countries that have a similar regime. The idea that you have to constantly threaten deadly force in order to enforce the law is not at all born out in other countries.
- rs999gti 6y ago
  > The idea that you have to constantly threaten deadly force in order to enforce the law is not at all born out in other countries. It doesn't need to be physical force, it can be taxation, fines, imprisonment, or loss of rights. But force is force.
relaxing 6y ago
No white collar criminal expects to get shot over accounting fraud or insider trading. They go quietly, turn themselves in. I do understand the libertarian view of things, the first-principles consideration that ends every conflict in a wild west shootout. But in reality most people want to participate in society, and abide by the social contracts therein. Feel free to consider my original questions, if you want.

rs999gti 6y ago

> Just what percent of broken laws in the US do you think end up being enforced with guns drawn? Why draw a gun and use force by threat? Imprisonment, fines, wage garnishment, loss of rights, etc. are all equally effective ways of enforcing laws.