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If you don't know modern examples of possible false flags/intelligence operations gone awry yet, it's time to become familiar. Lots of lines being crossed the
by ta17711771 6y ago
If you don't know modern examples of possible false flags/intelligence operations gone awry yet, it's time to become familiar.
Lots of lines being crossed the last few decades.
- nautilus12 6y agoWhat would be the possible reason for conducting this particular false flag (assuming that's what it was)
- trevyn 6y agoStates derive part of their legitimacy from offering protection against harm. Anything that appears as a threat of harm, a state derives existential benefit from. "State security" provides security to the existence of the state.
- yters 6y agothat's why most criminals are actually state agents also explains why prisons are so cushy and recidivism so high
- ThePowerOfFuet 6y agoRelevant (and highly recommended): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
- redis_mlc 6y agoThis case is really odd, but the GP is generally correct, even if using slightly incorrect terminology.
- pmorici 6y agoOne result was it gave a pretense for the prime minister to issue the equivalent of an executive order banning 1500 types of rife which were previously legal and giving anyone that owns one a 2 year grace period to dispose of it. This was done without going through the legislative process.
- ta17711771 6y agoPlease link to a source?
- pmorici 6y agohttps://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/justin-trudeau-announces-federal-ban-on-military-grade-assault-weapons-in-canada-full-transcript/ https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/justin-trudeau-announces...
- ta17711771 6y agoCheers.
- keeganpoppen 6y agowhat are some examples that are thought to be in this category?
- 3131s 6y ago9/11, at least depending on your definition of "false flag". The Bush administration had foreknowledge of the attacks and actively suppressed attempts to stop them. George W. Bush was close personal friends with one of the key architects of 9/11 and afterwards great measures were taken to cover up this person's involvement (the so-called "28 pages"). A lot of other people would cite the Gulf of Tonkin as an example too, but that's something I know less about so I'll leave it to someone else.
- 3131s 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan_Al_Saud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan_Al_Saud
- catalogia 6y ago> A lot of other people would cite the Gulf of Tonkin as an example too, but that's something I know less about so I'll leave it to someone else. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was explained to the American public at the time as pair of attacks on two separate nights against the US Navy by the North Vietnamese. This was used as the casus belli for the Vietnam War; in response to the two attacks congress passed the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution which authorized LBJ to start a war (without formally declaring a war...) The first attack probably did happen, however in 2003 Robert McNamara (who had been the US Secretary of Defense at the time of the incident) admitted the second attack never happened. Straight from the horse's mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HODxnUrFX6k
- dragonwriter 6y ago> This was used as the casus belli for the Vietnam War No, it was used as the excuse for yet another escalation of the Vietnam War, which the US had been overtly been involved in since immediately after the French gave up in 1954, and had significantly escalated it's involvement in (again, overtly) throughout the Kennedy Administration.
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