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Reuters killed their RSS feeds?

234 points by antpls 6y ago

pmichaud 6y ago
Is there an alternate source for this? It's how I got my news up until it shut down.
- dancedar 6y ago
  Another news site's sadly
- reaperducer 6y ago
  Is there an alternate source for this? It's how I got my news up until it shut down. You could always pay for the news you consume.
  - jimktrains2 6y ago
    Is rss provided if you have an account? Otherwise it doesn't answer the question.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    RSS has nothing to do with payment for content.
  - gearhart 6y ago
    I’m a huge proponent for paid news, but that’s a bit of a strawman argument. Reuters hasn’t made their rss paid, or removed all of their free news content. It is sad that we’re losing a uniquely powerful mechanism for consuming news because we can’t find a business model that supports it. People Who consumed RSS news can’t just pay and get an equivalent experience. RSS allows filtering and combining news sources in ways that make them much more valuable, and can’t be reproduced just by paying for a single subscription to a publisher.
  - TallGuyShort 6y ago
    I tire of this suggestion. It made sense to me, so a few years I started subscribing to several newspapers, digitally. Suddenly I was getting paper newspapers all the time. This became a safety / security concern because when I would travel, the newspapers would pile up. Nevermind the sheer amount of waste. Since I didn't actually ask for delivery, I had no mechanism to put my deliveries on hold. I contacted the various newspapers 3-8 different times to ask them to stop. Eventually they all only stopped when I cancelled my digital subscription and told them that was the reason. I also wasn't very happy with the news I was paying to get. Even though I was paying, it was still riddled with ads, and heavy on the click-bait. I would find an article with a compelling subject, but felt the writing lacked substance. So I would go look up similar articles from other sources, and have to read 5 or 6 before I felt I had a good sense of enough of the facts to judge any of the articles by. There was never 1 outlet I could pay for that I consistently felt had a well-rounded, factual statement of a story. I'm not paying for 5 or 6 newspapers and doing that much work for every story I read, sorry. If only for my emotional health, I'll choose to remain ignorant at that point. This was mostly local papers. I would be willing to try a couple of national papers if they didn't have similar problems, but as far as I can tell, they do - but at least it's less severe. I probably should support some international news sources as they are a lot better in this regard (like Reuters, Al Jazeera, BBC) but I don't think I've ever been prompted to subscribe. I just checked Reuter's website and I don't even see the option. Is that even the business model with these sources? But that's all beside the point. If I pay, will I get an RSS feed? No.
  - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
    I am paying for The Economist, and they still track me through 10 trackers (last time I checked) and resell me.
- briffle 6y ago
  Is it wrong that I miss Pointcast? It was before RSS, and would download full articles (including images and ads, etc) for use when you wanted to read it.
  - mvidal01 6y ago
    Pointcast, boy that brings back some memories.
- cpach 6y ago
  Depends on what your after really. In my case subscribing to a nation-wide newspaper feels like a good solution. Or is it an RSS feed specifically that you want?
- nojito 6y ago
  AP and Reuters have excellent twitter feeds.
  - taborj 6y ago
    To extend that a bit, using something like RSS-Bridge[0] you can turn a Twitter feed into an RSS feed. [0] https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge
    - JeremyNT 6y ago
      Truly a great recommendation! I switched to tt-rss years ago when Google Reader was discontinued, but as more services discontinue their RSS feeds it has been consistently losing value. I'd looked for something like rss-bridge ages ago, around the time I moved to tt-rss, but it didn't seem to exist (or wasn't popular enough to find). Your mention caused me to give things another look, and now my tt-rss is rapidly filling back up with content. Thanks!
- simantel 6y ago
  CNN offers several RSS feeds: https://www.cnn.com/services/rss/ https://www.cnn.com/services/rss/
  - goalieca 6y ago
    CNN is highly editorialized and borders infotainment. I too am struggling to find good sources of professional journalism.
- jaredwiener 6y ago
  Shameless plug -- but I built this web app, aggregates a bunch of different sources: https://journali.sm https://journali.sm
  - kungato 6y ago
    Why does it seem like there's only cnn, nyt and abc in the feed? Can we get articles from all sides of the spectrum? I'd like to see RT, fox, aljazeera and some edgy stuff I don't even know about
    - jaredwiener 6y ago
      There are categories on the sidebar that you can switch between, and you can also create a (free) account and choose which sources/categories you want in a custom feed.
    - Yetanfou 6y ago
      Using third-party aggregators like this only adds a middle man to a process which can be easily done by yourself using something like Nextcloud News on a personal server - a SBC like a Raspberry Pi or something similar is enough for this task (and others). You get to choose exactly which sources you want to add, from The Daily Beast to The Daily Wire, from Breitbart to HuffPo, take your pick and add them. You might have to do some work to find a feed link or rig up a scraper for those sites which don't offer one but this is worth the effort. One of the big advantages of running your own aggregator is that you get to see part of the editorial process - article titles are being changed, often from 'honest' to 'biased' or 'bland', articles are first put up but dropped a few minutes later, etc. You get to see how different outlets report on the same issue without any potential filtering by a middle man.
  - iso1631 6y ago
    Your site suggests it's based in San Marino, but it doesn't seem to cover any Italian news, nor does it seem to cover global news Your motto is "Just what's happening in the world." Scrolling down your (never ending) front page shows a single item of global significance - The highest number of coronavirus cases were reported to WHO in a single day yesterday
loktarogar 6y ago
why though?
- netule 6y ago
  No ads to be pushed in an RSS feed.
  - nathcd 6y ago
    I see this argument pretty regularly, but I don't understand it. Of course you can run ads in RSS feeds; you can put whatever you want in an RSS feed.
    - ojagodzinski 6y ago
      Ads in Internet are the whole ecosystem, they are served based on info you provide in cookies, browser fingerprint and some javascript magic. There is non of that in RSS reader as it is separate from your daily browsing.
      - nathcd 6y ago
        The ads I hear on podcasts and radio shows and read in newsletters might beg to differ.
    - ekianjo 6y ago
      adds in RSS offer much less tracking, spying, etc... of course they are still ads, but that's not the same animal at all.
      - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
        So - putting my Dr. Evil hat on - what about if on your homepage the link to the rss feed has a unique identifier, the same way the alert emails people send out tend to have a unique identifier in every url so you can track what email was successful for which user. It doesn't help with auto discovering rss tools, but it does handle the person who right clicks and copies the url of the feed to put in their feed reader.
dancedar 6y ago
The relelnless push to apps aka blocking ads & tracking marches on
tzfld 6y ago
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- Nicksil 6y ago
  Yeah, that's the problem.
- the_duke 6y ago
  Well, that's the point.
vvillena 6y ago
The death of RSS is the death of the federated web model where users view and consume the content they want to. Modern alternatives like Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram do not serve users in the same way. Users happily consume the content the platform feeds to them, without much say in it. It's an eerie return to the pre-Internet days, where the only choices a consumer had were to change the TV channel / radio dial / newspaper. An illusion of choice in which users are disempowered.
- jimmaswell 6y ago
  > Users happily consume the content the platform feeds to them, without much say in it. You get posts from people/pages you subscribe to in your feeds. I don't see how this is true unless you're just talking about Facebook's non-chronological order. Twitter's nothing like that anyway.
  - joecot 6y ago
    > I don't see how this is true unless you're just talking about Facebook's non-chronological order. It's more than just non-chronological. FB buries many link posts. Specific friends can disappear from your feed for months. FB still has the echo chamber issues it had pre 2016 election, just with fact checking notations sometimes. For many people, FB is where they get their world news at this point, and that's a very skewed way to get your news.
  - Lammy 6y ago
    Twitter has defaulted to a non-chronological feed for a while now. Check your "Show best Tweets first" setting.
- forgotmypw17 6y ago
  I think this is only a short-term effect. In response to things becoming more locked down, more and more "info liberation" projects will take root, and in the end the information will just gradually all leak out and end up outside the prison wall, in compatible, accessible formats. Then, eventually, even the sources of the information will switch to publishing it in the libresphere, because at that point the best audiences will be there too.
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kmstout 6y ago
I sent an online support request pointing out the problem (as though they're not aware) and politely asking when it would be fixed. Assuming the reply window for this thread is still open by then, I'll post any response here.
- stagger87 6y ago
  Surely there is a better approach than a passive aggressive support request?
  - gre 6y ago
    This entire post on hackernews. Likely the people who removed the RSS feed will read it.
    - mratsim 6y ago
      Reuters read HN?
      - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
        Some developers at Reuters definitely do. Indian and Belarusian programmers, heh?
  - burkaman 6y ago
    I don't think it's passive aggressive. It could actually just be a mistake. I've emailed (admittedly much smaller) news organizations before when their RSS feeds went down, and received a response and a reinstated feed. I wouldn't bet money on it coming back, but if this was an intentional move I might have expected them to replace the page with "Sorry, no more RSS, try our app!" or something. They are also still linking to the feeds at the bottom of many pages, like this one: https://www.reuters.com/tools/mobile/us https://www.reuters.com/tools/mobile/us
    - iso1631 6y ago
jahlove 6y ago
That stinks. I was subscribed for my Kodi ticker feed. I've found that Reuters does the best job at putting actual information in the headline and not just using it as an opportunity for clickbait. Fictional Example: - CNN: Trump said what? Democrats outraged by latest tweet. - Reuters: Trump tweets 'looting leads to shooting' in response to BLM Protests
Mr_Sweater 6y ago
AP also did this, I use their app but wish I could pay to get rid of the ads.
marban 6y ago
99% of times it's just an error on their end and they eventually come back. Why: I've created popurls fame back in the days (now hvper.com) and I can tell you that this would be the first prominent case that a major outlet would eventually give up on offering a feed. RSS is alive and kicking and its death is just something the tech community loves to agonize over and over again.
- antpls 6y ago
  My experience diverges from yours. Reuters feeds have been highly reliable over the last 3 years for me, with near zero downtime. There were at least one new entry per hour, almost 24h/24, but it can go up to 5 new entries per hour. This is not a small "hiccup", this is a total blackout for almost a day now Meta : HN doesn't let me downvote your comment, that doesn't seem very fair. Edit : I invite everyone to look at webarchive : https://web.archive.org/web/20191029165306/https://www.reuters.com/tools/rss https://web.archive.org/web/20191029165306/https://www.reute... The tools/rss page went offline October 29th 2019, which seems to indicate a planned shutdown of the RSS prepared months ago. Possibly, they delayed the shutdown with covid19 to now
- the_biot 6y ago
  I created a support ticket with my RSS reader (Newsblur) about this issue concerning you! It appears to be quietly feeding me hvper.com articles from the now non-functional feeds.reuters.com (https://forum.newsblur.com/t/where-did-hvper-news-come-from/8217 https://forum.newsblur.com/t/where-did-hvper-news-come-from/...). I don't supposed you know how this magic could possibly happen?
rekabis 6y ago
Wouldn’t it be possible to create a third-party site scraper that could generate custom RSS feeds independently of the company? About the only barrier would be paywalls, IMO.
- lgl 6y ago
  Yes, and even with paywalls, as long as the source has login details it can still be done (although this would probably be illegal). Anecdotal evidence: I work in a tour operator and we publish our products on tripadvisor and getyourguide which are two very popular places to advertise these products and that provide an extranet to suppliers where they can login to create and manage products, availability, etc. A few years ago before they had developed APIs or had only private APIs for the "big guys" and wouldn't really pay any attention to small shops' requests, I managed to use Puppeteer [0] [1] (a node.js library to manage headless Chrome) to dynamically update our products into their extranet. It's very powerful and with some tinkering you can automate pretty much any behavior, including authentication and xhr interactions inside their platform (although this will require a bit of studying their requests using the browsers developer tools). It's a great tool. [0] https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer [1] https://pptr.dev https://pptr.dev
- MichaelApproved 6y ago
  They tweet all their articles, right? No need to scrape their site, if you're only looking for headlines. This tool will generate an RSS feed from their Twitter account http://fetchrss.com/twitter http://fetchrss.com/twitter You won't get the article content but it'll give you enough information to find out if you're interested in the article and then read it on their site. https://twitter.com/Reuters https://twitter.com/Reuters
- taborj 6y ago
  There are several options; fetchRSS, RSS-Bridge, etc. I personally have RSS-Bridge running on my local webserver, and use it for Twitter feeds, Instagram, Facebook, etc.
JadoJodo 6y ago
Interesting that their FeedBurner CNAME[0] is still set. [0] http://feeds.reuters.com/ http://feeds.reuters.com/
- nvr219 6y ago
  For sure whomever is in charge of their DNS found out about this the same time we did.
agaase19 6y ago
There should be a way to integrate RSS with a payment model. People should be free to get content they want in any app of their choice based and still be able to pay for it.
- marban 6y ago
  Hidden RSS Urls already exist. Publishers are just lazy to implement it.
- vvG94KbDUtRa 6y ago
  There are ways. Lots of podcasts etc are RSS and behind paywalls. Agree we should make it easier and companies are starting to pop up that empower and enable the distributed internet rather than destroying it, even as spotify is making major moves in the other direction.
- gsich 6y ago
  There is. It's called Basic Auth and probably every HTTP library supports that.
SamWhited 6y ago
I just noticed today that City Lab as part of their move to Bloomberg also doesn't appear to have a working Atom or RSS feed anymore :( I contacted customer support and told them it worked on the old site but now appears to be gone. I've had a surprising amount of success with this on news sites and magazines in the past, so hopefully they respond positively.
- SamWhited 6y ago
  Reuters support responded and told me I'd have to pay them if I wanted RSS feeds back, apparently this is some sort of subscription feature now? I dunno, it made no sense. No response from City Lab.
epaulson 6y ago
I wish there was an OAuth for RSS, so I could subscribe to private/paid feeds through reader apps I only partially trusted.
- njkleiner 6y ago
  There actually is, kind of. The IndieWeb[0] community has come up with a protocol called AutoAuth[1] that solves this exact problem. It's only a rough draft at the moment and it is built upon the IndieAuth[2] protocol (which, in turn, is based on OAuth 2), but I think the way it works is highly fascinating. Here[3] is a an overview of how it works. [0]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/ [1]: https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth [2]: https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/ https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/ [3]: https://www.svenknebel.de/temp/autoauth.html https://www.svenknebel.de/temp/autoauth.html
- WGH_ 6y ago
  I've seen many sites that generate feed URLs with secret token appended as a query parameter. This token only gives an access to the feed, so this as safe as it gets, and requires no special support on reader app part.
lcnmrn 6y ago
I used to include their RSS feeds on radfi.com and now I have to find a replacement for them.
jmsflknr 6y ago
Still showing up on RSS apps and populating new entries. https://imgur.com/a/GiE37KC https://imgur.com/a/GiE37KC
- dang 6y ago
  Ok, I'm going to downweight this thread for now. We can revisit the story if it turns out to be true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22no%20harm%20in%20waiting%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
  - antpls 6y ago
    Hi dang. The feeds are _not_ populating for about 24h now, but any rss readers that fetched the last news from 24h ago will still show the last news from 24h ago (like in the imgur picture). With all my respect, I would agree to change the title to add a question mark, but not to downweight the fact that, intentionally or not, reuters killed their rss feeds for 24h now, and some of us are impacted, and they would like to share their experiences and opinions.
    - dang 6y ago
      Ok, but the problem is that then this becomes an "is down" story, as in "Reuters' RSS feed is down". Those tend not to be a very high quality category of submission, and it's unlikely that a story with that title would have shot to the front page. Rather it's the sensational they-killed-RSS! aspect of the story that attracted attention, because it ties in with the generic topics of RSS-lamentation and web-nostalgia which are perennially popular here (plus the word 'killed' evokes indignation, which invariably attracts upvotes). I'm not mocking those feelings—I share them! I just think there's a binary outcome here: either Reuters is truly killing their RSS, in which case we can discuss that once we know it; or (more likely) this was just a bug somewhere, and that is not SNI (significant new information) which could support a substantially different discussion. For more on SNI, see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22significant%20new%20information%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... Actually, the 'bug' interpretation does relate to the RSS-lamentation topic in a more subtle way. Software that's low-priority never gets as much maintenance attention. Perhaps someone made a change that broke the RSS feed, but no one noticed because they didn't test that.
soapdog 6y ago
That is moving in the opposite direction of the recent trend... People are getting sick of silos and algorithmic timelines. Lot's my friends are moving back to RSS and feed aggregators, heck I'm building a RSS add-on.
mD5pPxMcS6fVWKE 6y ago
That's a pity, I use RSS to forward feeds from many news sites to my telegram.
captn3m0 6y ago
I was sad the day the RSS feed on Jordan Mechner's site stopped working. I think it was around the time Stripe published the PoP book. We need more RSS feeds!
Rumperuu 6y ago
I submitted a support ticket on Jun 20, and received a reply this morning: ‘Hello, Thank you for reaching out. Please be informed that we've already discontinued RSS Feed on Reuters.com. If you require the service, we suggest that you contact our Sales Team on the link provided below: https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html Kind regards, The Reuters.com Team’
- lavanderson 6y ago
  I got the same reply, word for word, for a similar inquiry.
sashainsydney 6y ago
Confirmed: Reuters closed their RSS down. Not a good look, imho. Leo, Jun 23, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC: Hello, Thank you for reaching out and we apologize for the inconvenience. We are shutting down the current iteration of the Reuters.com global editions RSS feeds as part of our larger strategy and as part of better experiences we have in store for Reuters.com. However, if you require the service, we suggest that you contact our Sales Team on the link provided below: https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html Kind regards, The Reuters.com Team

234 points by antpls 6y ago

pmichaud 6y ago

Is there an alternate source for this? It's how I got my news up until it shut down.

dancedar 6y ago
Another news site's sadly
reaperducer 6y ago
Is there an alternate source for this? It's how I got my news up until it shut down. You could always pay for the news you consume.
- jimktrains2 6y ago
  Is rss provided if you have an account? Otherwise it doesn't answer the question.
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  RSS has nothing to do with payment for content.
- gearhart 6y ago
  I’m a huge proponent for paid news, but that’s a bit of a strawman argument. Reuters hasn’t made their rss paid, or removed all of their free news content. It is sad that we’re losing a uniquely powerful mechanism for consuming news because we can’t find a business model that supports it. People Who consumed RSS news can’t just pay and get an equivalent experience. RSS allows filtering and combining news sources in ways that make them much more valuable, and can’t be reproduced just by paying for a single subscription to a publisher.
- TallGuyShort 6y ago
  I tire of this suggestion. It made sense to me, so a few years I started subscribing to several newspapers, digitally. Suddenly I was getting paper newspapers all the time. This became a safety / security concern because when I would travel, the newspapers would pile up. Nevermind the sheer amount of waste. Since I didn't actually ask for delivery, I had no mechanism to put my deliveries on hold. I contacted the various newspapers 3-8 different times to ask them to stop. Eventually they all only stopped when I cancelled my digital subscription and told them that was the reason. I also wasn't very happy with the news I was paying to get. Even though I was paying, it was still riddled with ads, and heavy on the click-bait. I would find an article with a compelling subject, but felt the writing lacked substance. So I would go look up similar articles from other sources, and have to read 5 or 6 before I felt I had a good sense of enough of the facts to judge any of the articles by. There was never 1 outlet I could pay for that I consistently felt had a well-rounded, factual statement of a story. I'm not paying for 5 or 6 newspapers and doing that much work for every story I read, sorry. If only for my emotional health, I'll choose to remain ignorant at that point. This was mostly local papers. I would be willing to try a couple of national papers if they didn't have similar problems, but as far as I can tell, they do - but at least it's less severe. I probably should support some international news sources as they are a lot better in this regard (like Reuters, Al Jazeera, BBC) but I don't think I've ever been prompted to subscribe. I just checked Reuter's website and I don't even see the option. Is that even the business model with these sources? But that's all beside the point. If I pay, will I get an RSS feed? No.
- sam_lowry_ 6y ago
  I am paying for The Economist, and they still track me through 10 trackers (last time I checked) and resell me.
briffle 6y ago
Is it wrong that I miss Pointcast? It was before RSS, and would download full articles (including images and ads, etc) for use when you wanted to read it.
- mvidal01 6y ago
  Pointcast, boy that brings back some memories.
cpach 6y ago
Depends on what your after really. In my case subscribing to a nation-wide newspaper feels like a good solution. Or is it an RSS feed specifically that you want?
nojito 6y ago
AP and Reuters have excellent twitter feeds.
- taborj 6y ago
  To extend that a bit, using something like RSS-Bridge[0] you can turn a Twitter feed into an RSS feed. [0] https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge https://github.com/RSS-Bridge/rss-bridge
  - JeremyNT 6y ago
    Truly a great recommendation! I switched to tt-rss years ago when Google Reader was discontinued, but as more services discontinue their RSS feeds it has been consistently losing value. I'd looked for something like rss-bridge ages ago, around the time I moved to tt-rss, but it didn't seem to exist (or wasn't popular enough to find). Your mention caused me to give things another look, and now my tt-rss is rapidly filling back up with content. Thanks!
simantel 6y ago
CNN offers several RSS feeds: https://www.cnn.com/services/rss/ https://www.cnn.com/services/rss/
- goalieca 6y ago
  CNN is highly editorialized and borders infotainment. I too am struggling to find good sources of professional journalism.
jaredwiener 6y ago
Shameless plug -- but I built this web app, aggregates a bunch of different sources: https://journali.sm https://journali.sm
- kungato 6y ago
  Why does it seem like there's only cnn, nyt and abc in the feed? Can we get articles from all sides of the spectrum? I'd like to see RT, fox, aljazeera and some edgy stuff I don't even know about
  - jaredwiener 6y ago
    There are categories on the sidebar that you can switch between, and you can also create a (free) account and choose which sources/categories you want in a custom feed.
  - Yetanfou 6y ago
    Using third-party aggregators like this only adds a middle man to a process which can be easily done by yourself using something like Nextcloud News on a personal server - a SBC like a Raspberry Pi or something similar is enough for this task (and others). You get to choose exactly which sources you want to add, from The Daily Beast to The Daily Wire, from Breitbart to HuffPo, take your pick and add them. You might have to do some work to find a feed link or rig up a scraper for those sites which don't offer one but this is worth the effort. One of the big advantages of running your own aggregator is that you get to see part of the editorial process - article titles are being changed, often from 'honest' to 'biased' or 'bland', articles are first put up but dropped a few minutes later, etc. You get to see how different outlets report on the same issue without any potential filtering by a middle man.
- iso1631 6y ago
  Your site suggests it's based in San Marino, but it doesn't seem to cover any Italian news, nor does it seem to cover global news Your motto is "Just what's happening in the world." Scrolling down your (never ending) front page shows a single item of global significance - The highest number of coronavirus cases were reported to WHO in a single day yesterday

loktarogar 6y ago

why though?

netule 6y ago
No ads to be pushed in an RSS feed.
- nathcd 6y ago
  I see this argument pretty regularly, but I don't understand it. Of course you can run ads in RSS feeds; you can put whatever you want in an RSS feed.
  - ojagodzinski 6y ago
    Ads in Internet are the whole ecosystem, they are served based on info you provide in cookies, browser fingerprint and some javascript magic. There is non of that in RSS reader as it is separate from your daily browsing.
    - nathcd 6y ago
      The ads I hear on podcasts and radio shows and read in newsletters might beg to differ.
  - ekianjo 6y ago
    adds in RSS offer much less tracking, spying, etc... of course they are still ads, but that's not the same animal at all.
    - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
      So - putting my Dr. Evil hat on - what about if on your homepage the link to the rss feed has a unique identifier, the same way the alert emails people send out tend to have a unique identifier in every url so you can track what email was successful for which user. It doesn't help with auto discovering rss tools, but it does handle the person who right clicks and copies the url of the feed to put in their feed reader.

dancedar 6y ago

The relelnless push to apps aka blocking ads & tracking marches on

tzfld 6y ago

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Nicksil 6y ago
Yeah, that's the problem.
the_duke 6y ago
Well, that's the point.

vvillena 6y ago

The death of RSS is the death of the federated web model where users view and consume the content they want to. Modern alternatives like Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram do not serve users in the same way. Users happily consume the content the platform feeds to them, without much say in it. It's an eerie return to the pre-Internet days, where the only choices a consumer had were to change the TV channel / radio dial / newspaper. An illusion of choice in which users are disempowered.

jimmaswell 6y ago
> Users happily consume the content the platform feeds to them, without much say in it. You get posts from people/pages you subscribe to in your feeds. I don't see how this is true unless you're just talking about Facebook's non-chronological order. Twitter's nothing like that anyway.
- joecot 6y ago
  > I don't see how this is true unless you're just talking about Facebook's non-chronological order. It's more than just non-chronological. FB buries many link posts. Specific friends can disappear from your feed for months. FB still has the echo chamber issues it had pre 2016 election, just with fact checking notations sometimes. For many people, FB is where they get their world news at this point, and that's a very skewed way to get your news.
- Lammy 6y ago
  Twitter has defaulted to a non-chronological feed for a while now. Check your "Show best Tweets first" setting.
forgotmypw17 6y ago
I think this is only a short-term effect. In response to things becoming more locked down, more and more "info liberation" projects will take root, and in the end the information will just gradually all leak out and end up outside the prison wall, in compatible, accessible formats. Then, eventually, even the sources of the information will switch to publishing it in the libresphere, because at that point the best audiences will be there too.

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kmstout 6y ago

I sent an online support request pointing out the problem (as though they're not aware) and politely asking when it would be fixed. Assuming the reply window for this thread is still open by then, I'll post any response here.

stagger87 6y ago
Surely there is a better approach than a passive aggressive support request?
- gre 6y ago
  This entire post on hackernews. Likely the people who removed the RSS feed will read it.
  - mratsim 6y ago
    Reuters read HN?
    - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
      Some developers at Reuters definitely do. Indian and Belarusian programmers, heh?
- burkaman 6y ago
  I don't think it's passive aggressive. It could actually just be a mistake. I've emailed (admittedly much smaller) news organizations before when their RSS feeds went down, and received a response and a reinstated feed. I wouldn't bet money on it coming back, but if this was an intentional move I might have expected them to replace the page with "Sorry, no more RSS, try our app!" or something. They are also still linking to the feeds at the bottom of many pages, like this one: https://www.reuters.com/tools/mobile/us https://www.reuters.com/tools/mobile/us
  - iso1631 6y ago

jahlove 6y ago

That stinks. I was subscribed for my Kodi ticker feed. I've found that Reuters does the best job at putting actual information in the headline and not just using it as an opportunity for clickbait. Fictional Example: - CNN: Trump said what? Democrats outraged by latest tweet. - Reuters: Trump tweets 'looting leads to shooting' in response to BLM Protests

Mr_Sweater 6y ago

AP also did this, I use their app but wish I could pay to get rid of the ads.

marban 6y ago

99% of times it's just an error on their end and they eventually come back. Why: I've created popurls fame back in the days (now hvper.com) and I can tell you that this would be the first prominent case that a major outlet would eventually give up on offering a feed. RSS is alive and kicking and its death is just something the tech community loves to agonize over and over again.

antpls 6y ago
My experience diverges from yours. Reuters feeds have been highly reliable over the last 3 years for me, with near zero downtime. There were at least one new entry per hour, almost 24h/24, but it can go up to 5 new entries per hour. This is not a small "hiccup", this is a total blackout for almost a day now Meta : HN doesn't let me downvote your comment, that doesn't seem very fair. Edit : I invite everyone to look at webarchive : https://web.archive.org/web/20191029165306/https://www.reuters.com/tools/rss https://web.archive.org/web/20191029165306/https://www.reute... The tools/rss page went offline October 29th 2019, which seems to indicate a planned shutdown of the RSS prepared months ago. Possibly, they delayed the shutdown with covid19 to now
the_biot 6y ago
I created a support ticket with my RSS reader (Newsblur) about this issue concerning you! It appears to be quietly feeding me hvper.com articles from the now non-functional feeds.reuters.com (https://forum.newsblur.com/t/where-did-hvper-news-come-from/8217 https://forum.newsblur.com/t/where-did-hvper-news-come-from/...). I don't supposed you know how this magic could possibly happen?

rekabis 6y ago

Wouldn’t it be possible to create a third-party site scraper that could generate custom RSS feeds independently of the company? About the only barrier would be paywalls, IMO.

lgl 6y ago
Yes, and even with paywalls, as long as the source has login details it can still be done (although this would probably be illegal). Anecdotal evidence: I work in a tour operator and we publish our products on tripadvisor and getyourguide which are two very popular places to advertise these products and that provide an extranet to suppliers where they can login to create and manage products, availability, etc. A few years ago before they had developed APIs or had only private APIs for the "big guys" and wouldn't really pay any attention to small shops' requests, I managed to use Puppeteer [0] [1] (a node.js library to manage headless Chrome) to dynamically update our products into their extranet. It's very powerful and with some tinkering you can automate pretty much any behavior, including authentication and xhr interactions inside their platform (although this will require a bit of studying their requests using the browsers developer tools). It's a great tool. [0] https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer [1] https://pptr.dev https://pptr.dev
MichaelApproved 6y ago
They tweet all their articles, right? No need to scrape their site, if you're only looking for headlines. This tool will generate an RSS feed from their Twitter account http://fetchrss.com/twitter http://fetchrss.com/twitter You won't get the article content but it'll give you enough information to find out if you're interested in the article and then read it on their site. https://twitter.com/Reuters https://twitter.com/Reuters
taborj 6y ago
There are several options; fetchRSS, RSS-Bridge, etc. I personally have RSS-Bridge running on my local webserver, and use it for Twitter feeds, Instagram, Facebook, etc.

JadoJodo 6y ago

Interesting that their FeedBurner CNAME[0] is still set. [0] http://feeds.reuters.com/ http://feeds.reuters.com/

nvr219 6y ago
For sure whomever is in charge of their DNS found out about this the same time we did.

agaase19 6y ago

There should be a way to integrate RSS with a payment model. People should be free to get content they want in any app of their choice based and still be able to pay for it.

marban 6y ago
Hidden RSS Urls already exist. Publishers are just lazy to implement it.
vvG94KbDUtRa 6y ago
There are ways. Lots of podcasts etc are RSS and behind paywalls. Agree we should make it easier and companies are starting to pop up that empower and enable the distributed internet rather than destroying it, even as spotify is making major moves in the other direction.
gsich 6y ago
There is. It's called Basic Auth and probably every HTTP library supports that.

SamWhited 6y ago

I just noticed today that City Lab as part of their move to Bloomberg also doesn't appear to have a working Atom or RSS feed anymore :( I contacted customer support and told them it worked on the old site but now appears to be gone. I've had a surprising amount of success with this on news sites and magazines in the past, so hopefully they respond positively.

SamWhited 6y ago
Reuters support responded and told me I'd have to pay them if I wanted RSS feeds back, apparently this is some sort of subscription feature now? I dunno, it made no sense. No response from City Lab.

epaulson 6y ago

I wish there was an OAuth for RSS, so I could subscribe to private/paid feeds through reader apps I only partially trusted.

njkleiner 6y ago
There actually is, kind of. The IndieWeb[0] community has come up with a protocol called AutoAuth[1] that solves this exact problem. It's only a rough draft at the moment and it is built upon the IndieAuth[2] protocol (which, in turn, is based on OAuth 2), but I think the way it works is highly fascinating. Here[3] is a an overview of how it works. [0]: https://indieweb.org/ https://indieweb.org/ [1]: https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth https://indieweb.org/AutoAuth [2]: https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/ https://indieauth.spec.indieweb.org/ [3]: https://www.svenknebel.de/temp/autoauth.html https://www.svenknebel.de/temp/autoauth.html
WGH_ 6y ago
I've seen many sites that generate feed URLs with secret token appended as a query parameter. This token only gives an access to the feed, so this as safe as it gets, and requires no special support on reader app part.

lcnmrn 6y ago

I used to include their RSS feeds on radfi.com and now I have to find a replacement for them.

jmsflknr 6y ago

Still showing up on RSS apps and populating new entries. https://imgur.com/a/GiE37KC https://imgur.com/a/GiE37KC

dang 6y ago
Ok, I'm going to downweight this thread for now. We can revisit the story if it turns out to be true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22no%20harm%20in%20waiting%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- antpls 6y ago
  Hi dang. The feeds are _not_ populating for about 24h now, but any rss readers that fetched the last news from 24h ago will still show the last news from 24h ago (like in the imgur picture). With all my respect, I would agree to change the title to add a question mark, but not to downweight the fact that, intentionally or not, reuters killed their rss feeds for 24h now, and some of us are impacted, and they would like to share their experiences and opinions.
  - dang 6y ago
    Ok, but the problem is that then this becomes an "is down" story, as in "Reuters' RSS feed is down". Those tend not to be a very high quality category of submission, and it's unlikely that a story with that title would have shot to the front page. Rather it's the sensational they-killed-RSS! aspect of the story that attracted attention, because it ties in with the generic topics of RSS-lamentation and web-nostalgia which are perennially popular here (plus the word 'killed' evokes indignation, which invariably attracts upvotes). I'm not mocking those feelings—I share them! I just think there's a binary outcome here: either Reuters is truly killing their RSS, in which case we can discuss that once we know it; or (more likely) this was just a bug somewhere, and that is not SNI (significant new information) which could support a substantially different discussion. For more on SNI, see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20%22significant%20new%20information%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu.... Actually, the 'bug' interpretation does relate to the RSS-lamentation topic in a more subtle way. Software that's low-priority never gets as much maintenance attention. Perhaps someone made a change that broke the RSS feed, but no one noticed because they didn't test that.

soapdog 6y ago

That is moving in the opposite direction of the recent trend... People are getting sick of silos and algorithmic timelines. Lot's my friends are moving back to RSS and feed aggregators, heck I'm building a RSS add-on.

mD5pPxMcS6fVWKE 6y ago

That's a pity, I use RSS to forward feeds from many news sites to my telegram.

captn3m0 6y ago

I was sad the day the RSS feed on Jordan Mechner's site stopped working. I think it was around the time Stripe published the PoP book. We need more RSS feeds!

Rumperuu 6y ago

I submitted a support ticket on Jun 20, and received a reply this morning: ‘Hello, Thank you for reaching out. Please be informed that we've already discontinued RSS Feed on Reuters.com. If you require the service, we suggest that you contact our Sales Team on the link provided below: https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html Kind regards, The Reuters.com Team’

lavanderson 6y ago
I got the same reply, word for word, for a similar inquiry.

sashainsydney 6y ago

Confirmed: Reuters closed their RSS down. Not a good look, imho. Leo, Jun 23, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC: Hello, Thank you for reaching out and we apologize for the inconvenience. We are shutting down the current iteration of the Reuters.com global editions RSS feeds as part of our larger strategy and as part of better experiences we have in store for Reuters.com. However, if you require the service, we suggest that you contact our Sales Team on the link provided below: https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html https://agency.reuters.com/en/contact-us.html Kind regards, The Reuters.com Team