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A quick lesson about tone and documentation. I'm always on the lookout for a good lightweight code editor to try out. I looked into Geany once and was excited

A quick lesson about tone and documentation. I'm always on the lookout for a good lightweight code editor to try out. I looked into Geany once and was excited to see that it had a Vim plugin. Unfortunately, reading the docs for it turned me away from it very quickly. The first thing the author of the Vim plugin for Geany says in the FAQ is that plugin is written by a guy who doesn't use Vim. Which sounds a little strange but I kept reading. Later in the FAQ, he implies that the plugin sucks, Vim sucks, and that he only wrote it to quell the "constant whining of Vim users." Needless to say, I will not be trying (let alone using) Geany as long as the prevailing attitude of the author of one of the plugins I _would_ use the most holds users in this level of sheer disdain.

notRobot 6y ago
Sure, but that's no fault of the Geany devs, only of one plugin author. Seems unfair to judge an IDE based on the documentation for a volunteer-written plugin that you haven't even tried. Edit: Also, while the dev admits that they don't use vim, they also say that they enjoy working on the plugin and repeatedly ask users to submit bug reports so that they can patch the plugin. They're also really open to patches and contributions. IMO, this is a perfect example of the true FOSS spirit. I think you're being unjustly harsh: https://plugins.geany.org/vimode.html#why-does-vimode-suck-so-much https://plugins.geany.org/vimode.html#why-does-vimode-suck-s...
- jachee 6y ago
  Counterintuitively, a dev supporting a feature about which they care, but without any particular zealous dedication may well produce a more universally appealing product for its audience.
stronglikedan 6y ago
> A quick lesson about tone and documentation. Seems more of a lesson of missing the forest for the trees, because a couple of trees at the edge of the forest gave a dirty look.
amelius 6y ago
> I looked into Geany once and was excited to see that it had a Vim plugin. Why would anyone want an editor with a "Vim plugin"? Why not simply use Vim?
- leafmeal 6y ago
  For me, vim bindings makes editing and navigating text a breeze, and completely keyboard controlled. I still rely on my IDE for its well integrated debugger, refactoring capabilities, ctrl-click, etc. While it may be possible to set this up with vim plugins, it's easier to just plug vim bindings into my IDE.

notRobot 6y ago

Sure, but that's no fault of the Geany devs, only of one plugin author. Seems unfair to judge an IDE based on the documentation for a volunteer-written plugin that you haven't even tried. Edit: Also, while the dev admits that they don't use vim, they also say that they enjoy working on the plugin and repeatedly ask users to submit bug reports so that they can patch the plugin. They're also really open to patches and contributions. IMO, this is a perfect example of the true FOSS spirit. I think you're being unjustly harsh: https://plugins.geany.org/vimode.html#why-does-vimode-suck-so-much https://plugins.geany.org/vimode.html#why-does-vimode-suck-s...

jachee 6y ago
Counterintuitively, a dev supporting a feature about which they care, but without any particular zealous dedication may well produce a more universally appealing product for its audience.

stronglikedan 6y ago

> A quick lesson about tone and documentation. Seems more of a lesson of missing the forest for the trees, because a couple of trees at the edge of the forest gave a dirty look.

amelius 6y ago

> I looked into Geany once and was excited to see that it had a Vim plugin. Why would anyone want an editor with a "Vim plugin"? Why not simply use Vim?

leafmeal 6y ago
For me, vim bindings makes editing and navigating text a breeze, and completely keyboard controlled. I still rely on my IDE for its well integrated debugger, refactoring capabilities, ctrl-click, etc. While it may be possible to set this up with vim plugins, it's easier to just plug vim bindings into my IDE.