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There's always a lot of folks claiming to get equal to or better than the rated range on the highway, but I will add my anecdata in for however much it's worth.

There's always a lot of folks claiming to get equal to or better than the rated range on the highway, but I will add my anecdata in for however much it's worth. I have a Model 3 Performance and it does not get anywhere near rated range, regardless of weather. I more realistically get 200 miles of range, not 300.

natch 6y ago
But the fun... you probably drive like I do.
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  Around town, for sure, but on a road trip with the fam I just set turn on autopilot at 70 and leave it. My wife & kids are not nearly as appreciative of the performance as I am :). But, even at mild temperatures cruising at steady speed on mostly level terrain, I generally see 325 Wh/mi. If I cruise at 75, it's 350 Wh/mi. The rated range can only be achieved by hitting about 250 Wh/mi.
  - 10-1-100 6y ago
    Assuming you have the 20 inch performance wheels (and the Pilot 4S summer tires that come with them), those could be the difference between you getting 325Wh/mi and something more in line with 250-275 at 70mph. Here's a chart with speed/efficiency measurements for most Tesla model/wheel configurations: https://teslike.com/ https://teslike.com/
    - natch 6y ago
      Yep that's part of why I put 18" wheels on my P+ even though they don't look as nice as the 20" wheels.
    - rootusrootus 6y ago
      That is entirely possible. When I drive out of my driveway and down the road, it sounds like the tires are ripping the asphalt off the road and flinging at the underside of the car. Sticky things. In the winter I run snow tires, but then there's the low temperature and corresponding use of the climate control that destroys range. And in the summer I've got the performance wheels and tires installed. So I'll never see optimal range. But Tesla probably shouldn't be quoting 300+ miles of range for the Performance model, either. Given the climate where I live is pretty mild, and snow is relatively rare and short-lived, I've given some consideration to ditching the performance tires and snow tires both and replacing with 19 inch Conti DWS to run year-round. If I got away with that on my Camaro, it would probably work on my AWD Tesla, LOL.
      - 10-1-100 6y ago
        Late response but, to Tesla's (slight) credit, they now advertise the performance (with 20" wheels) at 299 miles, and that's in comparison to the 2020 improvements that bumped the advertised range for LR AWD to 322 miles (from 310), so at least now expectations should be a bit more clear for new buyers. Yeah, I'd imagine running all seasons on 19s or 18s ought to be fine, especially with the killer traction control... This would be my plan in the event I were getting a P3D (trying to hold out for Cybertruck...) P.s., the way you describe the summer tires ripping up the pavement gave me a chuckle - I'll have to remember that next time I'm talking to someone about the difference with the summer tires!
c0nfused 6y ago
I find in my model 3 that unless I put it on cruise control I can never get close to the rating. Cruise control gets almost right on the money and cuts down the urge pass people for fun.

natch 6y ago

But the fun... you probably drive like I do.

rootusrootus 6y ago
Around town, for sure, but on a road trip with the fam I just set turn on autopilot at 70 and leave it. My wife & kids are not nearly as appreciative of the performance as I am :). But, even at mild temperatures cruising at steady speed on mostly level terrain, I generally see 325 Wh/mi. If I cruise at 75, it's 350 Wh/mi. The rated range can only be achieved by hitting about 250 Wh/mi.
- 10-1-100 6y ago
  Assuming you have the 20 inch performance wheels (and the Pilot 4S summer tires that come with them), those could be the difference between you getting 325Wh/mi and something more in line with 250-275 at 70mph. Here's a chart with speed/efficiency measurements for most Tesla model/wheel configurations: https://teslike.com/ https://teslike.com/
  - natch 6y ago
    Yep that's part of why I put 18" wheels on my P+ even though they don't look as nice as the 20" wheels.
  - rootusrootus 6y ago
    That is entirely possible. When I drive out of my driveway and down the road, it sounds like the tires are ripping the asphalt off the road and flinging at the underside of the car. Sticky things. In the winter I run snow tires, but then there's the low temperature and corresponding use of the climate control that destroys range. And in the summer I've got the performance wheels and tires installed. So I'll never see optimal range. But Tesla probably shouldn't be quoting 300+ miles of range for the Performance model, either. Given the climate where I live is pretty mild, and snow is relatively rare and short-lived, I've given some consideration to ditching the performance tires and snow tires both and replacing with 19 inch Conti DWS to run year-round. If I got away with that on my Camaro, it would probably work on my AWD Tesla, LOL.
    - 10-1-100 6y ago
      Late response but, to Tesla's (slight) credit, they now advertise the performance (with 20" wheels) at 299 miles, and that's in comparison to the 2020 improvements that bumped the advertised range for LR AWD to 322 miles (from 310), so at least now expectations should be a bit more clear for new buyers. Yeah, I'd imagine running all seasons on 19s or 18s ought to be fine, especially with the killer traction control... This would be my plan in the event I were getting a P3D (trying to hold out for Cybertruck...) P.s., the way you describe the summer tires ripping up the pavement gave me a chuckle - I'll have to remember that next time I'm talking to someone about the difference with the summer tires!

c0nfused 6y ago

I find in my model 3 that unless I put it on cruise control I can never get close to the rating. Cruise control gets almost right on the money and cuts down the urge pass people for fun.