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> “I don’t think I would characterize the conduct as rogue, because as seen in the complaint, the directive to do something about this goes pretty high up the c

> “I don’t think I would characterize the conduct as rogue, because as seen in the complaint, the directive to do something about this goes pretty high up the chain within eBay,” said Lelling. The couple then received a host of deliveries aimed at intimidating them. “These deliveries included fly larvae and live spiders, a box of live cockroaches, a sympathy wreath on the occasion of the death of a loved one, a book of advice on how to survive the death of a spouse, pornography mailed to their next door neighbors but in the couple’s names, Halloween masks featuring the face of the bloody pig, and the pig fetus which was ordered, but after an inquiry by the supplier, thankfully, wasn’t ever sent,” Lelling said. Some of these things basically constitute death threats, and the orders to do it came from up top. What is the meaningful difference between eBay and a mafia? That eBay doesn't make good on their threats (as far as we know)? The whole organization should be dismantled for this.

smt88 6y ago
I have long thought there should be a "death penalty" for corporations. The "execution" would be forced replacement of the entire C-suite. Additionally, the CEO would be barred from the C-suite or Board positions forever. This punishment would be reserved for corporations that knowingly kill people, such as pharma pushing opioids or Boeing hiding flaws in their planes.
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  "Corporations are people" comes up quit a bit, but corporations don't have three strikes laws that sequester their life for multiple decades. That being said this sounds like something the people involved should be held accountable for.
  - Nasrudith 6y ago
    That cliche complaint about corporations are people forgets that it is better thought of as "people via transitive property". And this sort of misconduct is more a personal conspiracy than company malfeasance. The shareholders would be well within their rights to sue all of the executives involved.
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  Needs clawback of golden parachutes otherwise there's little risk involved in sociopathic management.
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- TheBobinator 6y ago
  Public corporations grant their investors and executive management immunity against such charges unless it can be traced directly to their involvement and even then, most of the time someone is made into a scapegoat and hung. Much of this is out of necessity. The problem stems from privatizing the profits and socializing the losses; people want accountability. I think the correct approach is if a corporation wants to be a c-corp, they need to pay 2\3rds profits through approved accounting mechanisms to non-management staff which can include things like company stock, and should include requirements about openness of the books with staff. The "Public" seldom owns a company, and I am sure the public is very interested in making sure other people are rewarded for their hard work vs investorship. What you end up with is people have disposable income to invest in things they care about, and thus, the executive management is motivated not to do BS crap like this. It does make it more difficult to get large sources of capital together, but it also forces companies to the whim of people and investorship and employee's which is a much more tenable balance.
- ponker 6y ago
  There should also be the death penalty (no quotation marks) for sufficiently evil corporate misconduct. Not a case like this, but something like Purdue Pharmaceuticals knowingly creating the American opioid crisis should be more than enough destruction to justify lethal injections for the top principals of the company.
- nradov 6y ago
  In cases of serious fraud the SEC does sometimes bar individuals from being an officer or director of any publicly traded company.
Obi_Juan_Kenobi 6y ago
Perhaps shareholders would take their oversight responsibilities seriously if there were real financial consequences.

smt88 6y ago

I have long thought there should be a "death penalty" for corporations. The "execution" would be forced replacement of the entire C-suite. Additionally, the CEO would be barred from the C-suite or Board positions forever. This punishment would be reserved for corporations that knowingly kill people, such as pharma pushing opioids or Boeing hiding flaws in their planes.

CyberDildonics 6y ago
"Corporations are people" comes up quit a bit, but corporations don't have three strikes laws that sequester their life for multiple decades. That being said this sounds like something the people involved should be held accountable for.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  That cliche complaint about corporations are people forgets that it is better thought of as "people via transitive property". And this sort of misconduct is more a personal conspiracy than company malfeasance. The shareholders would be well within their rights to sue all of the executives involved.
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
Needs clawback of golden parachutes otherwise there's little risk involved in sociopathic management.
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TheBobinator 6y ago
Public corporations grant their investors and executive management immunity against such charges unless it can be traced directly to their involvement and even then, most of the time someone is made into a scapegoat and hung. Much of this is out of necessity. The problem stems from privatizing the profits and socializing the losses; people want accountability. I think the correct approach is if a corporation wants to be a c-corp, they need to pay 2\3rds profits through approved accounting mechanisms to non-management staff which can include things like company stock, and should include requirements about openness of the books with staff. The "Public" seldom owns a company, and I am sure the public is very interested in making sure other people are rewarded for their hard work vs investorship. What you end up with is people have disposable income to invest in things they care about, and thus, the executive management is motivated not to do BS crap like this. It does make it more difficult to get large sources of capital together, but it also forces companies to the whim of people and investorship and employee's which is a much more tenable balance.
ponker 6y ago
There should also be the death penalty (no quotation marks) for sufficiently evil corporate misconduct. Not a case like this, but something like Purdue Pharmaceuticals knowingly creating the American opioid crisis should be more than enough destruction to justify lethal injections for the top principals of the company.
nradov 6y ago
In cases of serious fraud the SEC does sometimes bar individuals from being an officer or director of any publicly traded company.

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 6y ago

Perhaps shareholders would take their oversight responsibilities seriously if there were real financial consequences.