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"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Heard that a bunch of times. I was today years old when i discovered it was PKD who sa
by harry8 6y ago
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Heard that a bunch of times. I was today years old when i discovered it was PKD who said it.
- perfmode 6y agoPKD can certainly be credited with reflecting this insight in a form digestible to western audiences. yet this conceptualisation of reality actually dates back thousands of years to Hindu metaphysics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman
- earthscienceman 6y agoI mean, I appreciate talking about the roots of ideas but everything is just an iteration on old ideas and these new iterations mean something to the people and cultures that iterate on them. To say that he said it in a way "digestible to western audiences" is basically to compliment him and say "he spoke in a way that meant something to a new generation of people with new experiences"
- mercer 6y agoIt can also be a nice bit of information for people to look into further, though :).
- cortesoft 6y agoI think the person was talking about the quote, not the concept
- pmoriarty 6y agoIf it didn't go away, did you really stop believing in it?
- perfmode 6y agois there awareness without belief? what is the nature of belief? what is the nature of consciousness? is consciousness the same as thought? is there consciousness without thought?
- BiteCode_dev 6y agoThe more I meditate (13 years now), and the more 1/5/6 seem to be yes/no/yes. It is congruent with many meditators exerience and teaching, which of course could be influencing this conclusion, not to mention it's not measurable nor objective. I'm not sure 2/3 are something we can ever answer. And that spawns many interesting questions about the physical characteristics of cousciousness. Does it start and end? It is present spacially? If you don't need thought, do you need the brain to be conscious? Do you need neurons? Can something without it be conscious? Is there only one form of consciouness? Is it persistent? Is it a whole? It is homogenous? Is it something in itself, or an emerging phenomena? Does it have a support, or is it a support in itself? Unfortunatly, people tend to immediatly reach for spiritual, religious or mystical answers to those.
- perfmode 6y agowhat do you make of the confessions of sages? respectfully: perhaps, do you prefer to stick to what can be understood from direct experience? i personally can’t help but wonder how it is that many sages in different times and places seem to arrive at corroboratory confessions of what they’ve experienced as the ground of being.
- msla 6y agoYes.