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Unfortunately, it seems like Riot plans to take the same approach they do with League of Legends, and introduce new agents consistently and frequently. With the

Unfortunately, it seems like Riot plans to take the same approach they do with League of Legends, and introduce new agents consistently and frequently. With the need for unique and interesting abilities to drive interest, Valorant will end up being much closer to Overwatch than CS.

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chrischen 6y ago
I would say it’s still fundamentally different from overwatch in that players who prefer CS-style may not like Overwatch but would like Valorant. Overwatch is much more abilities-heavy while Valorant is still more aiming heavy.
- kodt 6y ago
  I think CS will keep its popularity. Only players who can't cut it at a high level in CS are bailing to Valorant.
  - smabie 6y ago
    You mean like Skadoodle?
    - llama052 6y ago
      or Hiko for that matter.
      - burmanm 6y ago
        So instead of "couldn't make it top", we're talking about players "who couldn't stay at the top" ?
        Retric 6y ago
        I think “can't cut it at a high level“ was meant to cover both.
    - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
      It's different for professional players, isn't it: >'On June 3rd 2020, it was announced by T1 that he has resumed his professional career but in Valorant - reuniting with ex-iBUYPOWER teammates Braxton "swag" Pierce and Keven "AZK" Larivière in the process.' (https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Skadoodle https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Skadoodle) // If Valorant is less aim-based (I don't know) wouldn't that make sense for a retiree from a more aim-based game? Also Valorant could have just paid a load of CSGO "names" to move to their games as part of their marketing.
      - TheCraiggers 6y ago
        For sure. I don't know about all you, but I would go nuts if I had to stay in the same job forever. Sometimes you desire new challenges or greener pastures.
        smnscu 6y ago
        FWIW I've played the same game competitively for the past 11 years, while also doing the same job (programmer). Not sure how that reflects on me haha, but despite doing the same thing, the "meta" and skill level is dramatically different for both.
        TheCraiggers 6y ago
        Sure, it takes all kinds. However, I feel the need to point out the difference between playing something competitively (hobby) versus playing something professionally (job). The first is something you do to unwind after a day of work... the second is work. There's usually a large difference in time spent and focus.
    - kodt 6y ago
      Or players past their prime.
- strbean 6y ago
  On the one hand, with TTKs the same as CS, it's unlikely it will ever be as ability heavy as Overwatch. On the other hand, unless Riot deviates massively from my expectations, they will release new agents so often, and with such power creep, that it will get pretty damn abilities-heavy and approach Overwatch.

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chrischen 6y ago

I would say it’s still fundamentally different from overwatch in that players who prefer CS-style may not like Overwatch but would like Valorant. Overwatch is much more abilities-heavy while Valorant is still more aiming heavy.

kodt 6y ago
I think CS will keep its popularity. Only players who can't cut it at a high level in CS are bailing to Valorant.
- smabie 6y ago
  You mean like Skadoodle?
  - llama052 6y ago
    or Hiko for that matter.
    - burmanm 6y ago
      So instead of "couldn't make it top", we're talking about players "who couldn't stay at the top" ?
      - Retric 6y ago
        I think “can't cut it at a high level“ was meant to cover both.
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    It's different for professional players, isn't it: >'On June 3rd 2020, it was announced by T1 that he has resumed his professional career but in Valorant - reuniting with ex-iBUYPOWER teammates Braxton "swag" Pierce and Keven "AZK" Larivière in the process.' (https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Skadoodle https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Skadoodle) // If Valorant is less aim-based (I don't know) wouldn't that make sense for a retiree from a more aim-based game? Also Valorant could have just paid a load of CSGO "names" to move to their games as part of their marketing.
    - TheCraiggers 6y ago
      For sure. I don't know about all you, but I would go nuts if I had to stay in the same job forever. Sometimes you desire new challenges or greener pastures.
      - smnscu 6y ago
        FWIW I've played the same game competitively for the past 11 years, while also doing the same job (programmer). Not sure how that reflects on me haha, but despite doing the same thing, the "meta" and skill level is dramatically different for both.
        TheCraiggers 6y ago
        Sure, it takes all kinds. However, I feel the need to point out the difference between playing something competitively (hobby) versus playing something professionally (job). The first is something you do to unwind after a day of work... the second is work. There's usually a large difference in time spent and focus.
  - kodt 6y ago
    Or players past their prime.
strbean 6y ago
On the one hand, with TTKs the same as CS, it's unlikely it will ever be as ability heavy as Overwatch. On the other hand, unless Riot deviates massively from my expectations, they will release new agents so often, and with such power creep, that it will get pretty damn abilities-heavy and approach Overwatch.