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Watching the extended press conference now. No technical evidence points to the identified man but as I understand very little technical evidence exists. Lots o

by progre 6y ago

Watching the extended press conference now. No technical evidence points to the identified man but as I understand very little technical evidence exists. Lots of weird circumstances around this guy but overall this seems pretty weak. The guy has promoted himself as a key whitness since the morning after the murder, cunning strategy if he really did it. But he comes across as a bit of a dunce in the interviews. Edit: still watching. They just said that what they have now wouldn't hold water in a court Edit 2: the procecutor is getting ripped to pieces by the journalists now

kzrdude 6y ago
It does not seem morally right to "convict" (in the media) this man posthumously, based on no technical evidence. They are trying to put forward a story as canon, and while that is good for the many (the police, and for Sweden in general), the integrity of the judicial process and this man's right to due process is sacrificed.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  He's dead. Might as well throw a stick over the walls with Diogenes' corpse.
  - kzrdude 6y ago
    Defamation of passed person is a law in Sweden, even if it weighs heavily on the impact of living family, it is still a crime in itself.
  - progre 6y ago
    His wife is still alive though
  - patrik1900 6y ago
    He has relatives. And smearing a dead man is never right. The useless police should just smear themselves instead. absolutely useless. And to think the the last investigators had the audacity to smear the predecessors when they are just as useless themselves...
panpanna 6y ago
I think the evidence is that he was at the scene and lied to his teeth when questioned. He had weapon trainig, he was a right winger who hated Palme, he eventually took his own life. People have been sent to the electric chair for less.
- progre 6y ago
  Not a right-winger in the sense that the word is used now, he was in local politics for the Moderates mostly dealing with school issues. As for hating Palme, the same could be said of about a million people in Sweden at the time.
  - panpanna 6y ago
    I had the impression that he was pretty popular outside a few far right circles. He was after all elected with a majority?
    - kzrdude 6y ago
      He was pretty popular and pretty unpopular too. That's the story about him, he was a controversial, born "aristocrat" but still social democrat, and he had many who loved him and many haters. He was controversial and outspoken.
    - progre 6y ago
      Oh he was extremly popular. My parents was in tears when they heard about the murder (from me, I was 8 but I had the radio on in my room). But he was also seen as a traitor by the right. Being outspokenly angry at him was not unusual or extreme at the time. Edit: This was diffrent times. Lots of people said things like "i wish he was dead" and worse things. Noone called out such talk like we do now. When I starded as aprentice in a factory about 9 years after this there was always threats of violence among workers, people was called racial slurs to their face, women was always "courted" in crude ways. Noone took such things seriously at the time.
      - 6y ago
raxxorrax 6y ago
Makes him suspect to be honest but it is no proof of course.

by progre 6y ago

kzrdude 6y ago

It does not seem morally right to "convict" (in the media) this man posthumously, based on no technical evidence. They are trying to put forward a story as canon, and while that is good for the many (the police, and for Sweden in general), the integrity of the judicial process and this man's right to due process is sacrificed.

renewiltord 6y ago
He's dead. Might as well throw a stick over the walls with Diogenes' corpse.
- kzrdude 6y ago
  Defamation of passed person is a law in Sweden, even if it weighs heavily on the impact of living family, it is still a crime in itself.
- progre 6y ago
  His wife is still alive though
- patrik1900 6y ago
  He has relatives. And smearing a dead man is never right. The useless police should just smear themselves instead. absolutely useless. And to think the the last investigators had the audacity to smear the predecessors when they are just as useless themselves...

panpanna 6y ago

I think the evidence is that he was at the scene and lied to his teeth when questioned. He had weapon trainig, he was a right winger who hated Palme, he eventually took his own life. People have been sent to the electric chair for less.

progre 6y ago
Not a right-winger in the sense that the word is used now, he was in local politics for the Moderates mostly dealing with school issues. As for hating Palme, the same could be said of about a million people in Sweden at the time.
- panpanna 6y ago
  I had the impression that he was pretty popular outside a few far right circles. He was after all elected with a majority?
  - kzrdude 6y ago
    He was pretty popular and pretty unpopular too. That's the story about him, he was a controversial, born "aristocrat" but still social democrat, and he had many who loved him and many haters. He was controversial and outspoken.
  - progre 6y ago
    Oh he was extremly popular. My parents was in tears when they heard about the murder (from me, I was 8 but I had the radio on in my room). But he was also seen as a traitor by the right. Being outspokenly angry at him was not unusual or extreme at the time. Edit: This was diffrent times. Lots of people said things like "i wish he was dead" and worse things. Noone called out such talk like we do now. When I starded as aprentice in a factory about 9 years after this there was always threats of violence among workers, people was called racial slurs to their face, women was always "courted" in crude ways. Noone took such things seriously at the time.
    - 6y ago

raxxorrax 6y ago

Makes him suspect to be honest but it is no proof of course.