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‘Smart toilet’ monitors for signs of disease
- jimmaswell 6y agoAdult Swim's Smart Pipe coming to life. https://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ https://youtu.be/DJklHwoYgBQ I actually thought it was a cool idea when I watched that, besides the exaggerated parts for the joke.
- castratikron 6y ago"We can't do any of that until we modernize our ancient child pornography laws."
- DonHopkins 6y agoBrilliant! That's some HBO Silicon Valley level parody. Atlas Shrugged @ 5:15 Start at 4:55 for the set-up. SmartPipe CEO Kirk Peckley is played by Mark Proksch, who also played Daniel Wormald (a.k.a Pryce) the H2 driving Squat Cobbler from Better Call Saul! https://breakingbad.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Wormald https://breakingbad.fandom.com/wiki/Daniel_Wormald https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Proksch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Proksch https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Squat%20Cobbler https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Squat%20Cobb... K-Strass the Zim-Zam Yo-Yo Guy Super Compilation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9VF7LyffU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9VF7LyffU https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/talk/2016/02/better-call-saul-mark-proksch-k-strass-zim-zam https://www.amc.com/shows/better-call-saul/talk/2016/02/bett... >Indeed, Proksch – who says he took Gilligan and Gould’s reaction as “incredibly high praise” – says the K-Strass character isn’t much of a stretch from who he is as a person. In fact, he says there’s even a little bit of K-Strass DNA in his performance as Pryce on Better Call Saul. “Every character that I play is a variation of me,” he says. “I have yet to play an out and out asshole or a villain. It’s always kind of a pathetic guy wearing pleats. And that’s what I love. I’m so happy that I get to play these arrogant idiots.”
- ShamelessC 6y agoHaha. "My father taught me the value of hard work and big ideas. But, he was in the union and so he grew lazy - " zooms in on copy of Atlas Shrugged "- and he failed to innovate. Uh, he died."
- monadic2 6y agoMark Proksch is fantastic, he's been a great joy to watch in "What We Do in the Shadows".
- jansan 6y agoAnyone else had the "Bugs be gone" commercial played before the actual video? I was totally confused and eventually found out that this was an ad by Ultimate Premium. This was probably the first time an ad actually worked on my in the last couple of years.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 6y ago4chan rectal scan
- steerablesafe 6y ago"when you log into smartpipe..."
- BunsanSpace 6y agoSmart pipe is a registered sex offender.
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- mc32 6y agoI guess it’s convenient and probably would save lives by way of course early detection... But... what about going in for an interview and unbeknownst you get idd and samples get sent. Or your employer... oh so and so is coming on with an expensive disease which requires loads of time off to recover... There are implications that need to be adressed.
- bb2018 6y agoI'm not quite sure that level of concern is warranted. It is illegal to ask for a medical examination before getting hired and I imagine this would extend to that. Testing poop, even with a smart toilet, would be pretty cumbersome and a huge PR nightmare. It would be just as easy now to remove hair for covert DNA tests - but I don't think that has ever been an issue.
- ilaksh 6y agoThey say in the article that this toilet does not test the poop, it just analyzes the image.
- ghaff 6y agoThat’s not universally true if a physical exam is required of all prospective employees with some relevance to the job. For those objecting: www.thebalancecareers.com/pre-employment-physicals-2060485 And I’ve personally had offers rescinded because of a physical. Quite a while ago and involved some physical work but physicals can be required.
- est31 6y ago> It would be just as easy now to remove hair for covert DNA tests Thanks to companies like 23andMe, this won't be neccessary in the future. If enough of your relatives have sent their genome to those companies, they already have the sequenced genome as well as consent from your relatives to use their DNA. Their DNA is highly similar to your DNA which means that they can extrapolate to you, without even having to resort to covert methods.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y ago
- fiberhood 6y agooriginal paper https://sci-hub.tw/10.1038/s41551-020-0534-9# https://sci-hub.tw/10.1038/s41551-020-0534-9#
- TomJansen 6y agoStool diagnostics are the future. So much health information is flushed down the toilet. I hope this will soon be a standard in houses. Except, the problem is what happens to the data of friends that use your toilet...
- mrlala 6y agoThey can press the privacy button which will ignore the current poop.
- flattone 6y agoSure but I’m going to carry that smart toilet to the local dump either way
- est31 6y agoYeah but what if you can't buy a non-smart toilet any more? Like what happens with TVs now.
- flattone 6y agoHaha yeah same Deal. Only dumb screens in my house. It’s all a joke ... this new shit. A joke on us
- ARandomerDude 6y agoJust don't connect it to your internet.
- teddyh 6y agoAlso, never have an open WiFi close to it. Ever. They do automatically connect to those and use them.
- thatguy0900 6y agoThat might stop working with 5g
- HaloZero 6y agoI'm curious then, do they have a light in the toilet to get the picture? I imagine some light must stream in depending on your body size and the toilet size but is that enough light or do they need more?
- ilaksh 6y agoPersonally I think this is going to be a critical aspect of healthcare in the future. That along with other continuous monitoring like smart watches with advanced pulse rate detection etc. And I think that the health improvements in terms of disease prevention and early treatment will be like night and day. They will look back at the pre-continuous-monitoring era of healthcare as the dark ages. However, the part that I really disagree with is the idea that it would send your data to the doctor but not make it readily available to you. I personally feel like access to and control over my own personal health data is a human right that is actually often effectively blocked by our current healthcare system. And I know that the belief is that normal people can't interpret health information, but with AI built into these types of devices and services and online knowledgebases, that isn't completely true anymore. Sure, we absolutely need doctors before making decisions, but that does not mean we should not be able to examine our own health data and do our own computer-assisted research. Especially when so many people cannot afford the costs of routine healthcare.
- mherchel 6y agoLiterally "the internet of sh*t"
- DonHopkins 6y ago"Hey buddy, you're the one with the sex toilet!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83KLxQ1jjdg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83KLxQ1jjdg
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- allears 6y agoThe real problem is false positives. Suppose this system puts up a warning. What next? Expensive and/or invasive tests? Could be more trouble than it's worth. If it were me, I'd have to see a very high rate of accuracy before I'd trust it.
- NotSammyHagar 6y agoThat's the common argument about almost every medical test. Prostate psa test could mean problems or not, and then prostate cancers have very different outcomes. If we scanned everyone we'd find lots of other anomalies that don't matter, but we'd find a few people with near term heart attack or stroke or early cancer. I'd personally take that risk.
- mmhsieh 6y agothere was no other method than anus scan for authentication? the fingerprint was not enough? if the anus is so reliable why bother with the fingerprint at all? how about voice authentication in lieu of all that?
- GoodOldNe 6y agoI can't believe they used the anal scan. This is too much like SmartPipe to be anything other than hilarious. It's where satire and reality meet back on the other side.
- anm89 6y agoThis is honestly incredible. They had to have taken this out of the adult swim promo. This comparison obviously begs the question, it it illegal to store a scan of a child's unique anal topography?
- jstarfish 6y agoThere was a gynecologist arrested a few years ago for taking related photos of (adult) patients. Storing the photo in a visually-renderable format is probably unacceptable. Storing hashes should work though.
- xenospn 6y agoThere's a Japanese startup that makes smart cat litterboxes. Clever stuff.
- chance_state 6y agoDo they analyze the cat poop?
- xenospn 6y agoCat pee.
- flattone 6y agoCan anyone actually build something good? ‘What’s another attack surface of a persons dignity and privacy?’ - all new products. You’re all going the way of the dinosaurs with your ‘new’ bs
- alach11 6y agoMy wife has an autoimmune disease which can manifest with blood and protein spilling into urine due to impaired kidney function. To monitor this daily would be a tremendous improvement to our ability to monitor for flares.
- flattone 6y agoThats a brilliant example where we need to provide her with the device she needs. I still dont want it as a product thats in every home
- kumarm 6y agoIts already main stream for cats to do the same with litter. https://prettylitter.com/ https://prettylitter.com/ Its matter of time before this becomes common. Disclaimer: Investor in prettylitter.
- drdeadringer 6y agoI recognize this as being advertised on the podcast "Small Town Dicks" with Yeardley Smith ["Lisa" from "The Simpsons"] and two detectives "from Small Town USA" about actual true crime stuff. Notification Again: I just listen to the podcast, I've simply just watched 'The Simpsons', and I don't have a cat. smalltowndicks.com
- FloatArtifact 6y agoInevitably another cloud connected device. I hope it keeps my crap secure...
- PresidentChuck 6y agoCrap Cloud has a nice ring to it
- sarcasmatwork 6y agoDon't need 1 more thing monitoring my shit.
- lvs 6y agoToilet-cloud interface unwanted
- mistrial9 6y agojokes aside, testing != outcomes; many comments here make reference to testing results taken by others, and then .. what ? Who owns the data ? what is the custody chain of the data ? When it is available, to the highest bidder? Illness is a weakness, and weakness is used by humans against other humans, everyday. Some psychology suggests that the more removed and remote the decision-making, the more likely to be unfair. Therefore, collecting intimate data on YOU with this device, especially in some kind of mandetory, unescapable way, is the stuff of nightmares for real reasons. This invention is useful, but its application is no joke. !
- jerrac 6y agoHave not read the article, but every time I've heard about it my thought is, "make it not connected to the internet." Basically, keep the data local, then you can choose to take to your doctor, or find a way to analyze it yourself. No need for it to be transmitted anywhere. Of course, that would require respecting a persons privacy and not falling for the lure of "big data" "saving the world".
- dogma1138 6y agoThat defeats the entire point of this, the whole point isn’t a diagnosis but an early warning especially of it can be performed within a single bowl movement so when you are done and ready to flush you get some feedback. If you need to go to a doctor to get any analysis you might as well bring your own stool sample. This is intended to replace home stool testing kits which are well icky and tricky to use. Having smart toilets in public or semi pubic places would be a good balance between privacy and utility, it can’t tie results to a given user but it can collect collective health data and alert users of potential health concerns.
- stingraycharles 6y agoI think the point of the parent is not so much that you need to take your data to a doctor as much as it’s about not uploading the data to the internet (ie keep the data local).
- Kiro 6y agoOr the obvious middle-ground: make it optional to upload it. I would certainly not want this unless it uploaded and analyzed the data automatically. If it can happen locally, no problem, but I guess it makes it much harder.
- ConsiderCrying 6y agoIf they make it optional, I'd bet good money on the "Don't upload" being off by default and hidden behind five complicated menus.
- onetimemanytime 6y agoThe downsides are huge, including everyone knowing or thinking that they know your medical secrets. More or less we know what we have or risk, yet until it hits us like a ton of bricks we keep eating, sitting and drinking.
- anm89 6y agoIt's more like a lock and key mechanism that employs your topographical anal handshake.
- Kiro 6y agoThe comments in this thread that can't see the obvious benefits and instead are focusing on far-fetched privacy issues. If we come to a point where everyone is forced to shit in a smart toilet we will have way bigger problems to deal with. Until then just let me have a smart toilet to analyze my poop.
- pvaldes 6y ago"You'll never guess what Jennifer Lopez had for dinner this month. The number 9 will blow your digestive system" But Wow, that adult swim video nailed that in 2014 Of course If a system can scan signs of disease, to modify it to scan silently drugs would be a breeze. Would be basically like putting a policeman inside each toilet.
- DonHopkins 6y agoBlue Lives Fecal Matter!
- bencollier49 6y agoInsurers will subsidise these things, like black boxes in cars. Anyone fancy selling them to Saudi so the government can check you're not drinking alcohol?
- danimal88 6y ago"shitbit"
- vanilla-almond 6y agoWhat types of health conditions can be detected in stools and urine? For some conditions there are some obviously visual signs e.g. blood in urine or stools. Or the colour of stool may indicate a condition if it is persistently a very pale colour. But what conditions can be detected in stools and urine that aren't visible by visual diagnosis? The article mentions some cancers but not much detail.
- PresidentChuck 6y agoLook up urine test strips
- PresidentChuck 6y agoI saw some kitty litter that changes color for certain conditions.