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satya71 6y ago
I don't understand Portuguese, but all the charts are at 0 now. That can't be right.
- spyremeown 6y ago
  I do. They basically stopped updating the database. We were getting 1000+ deaths/day. They say they're going to "recount" because they don't trust the numbers are right. Everyone here knows it's just a political move.
  - turrini 6y ago
    Sorry but this is incorrect. The numbers are being updated once a day at 10 pm. And yes, the actual and previous numbers are under investigation by the Federal Police.
    - spyremeown 6y ago
      Dude, look at the graph on the given link above. Deaths literally went from 1000+ to 61 yesterday. Also, in the main panel [1] the gov. quit updating the total death count and does not let you download the .csv like they did before, but still keep the total death count for the day. [1] https://covid.saude.gov.br/ https://covid.saude.gov.br/
      - turrini 6y ago
        That's a dashboard, read the about section that explains it. Here is the CSV: https://mobileapps.saude.gov.br/esus-vepi/files/unAFkcaNDeXajurGB7LChj8SgQYS2ptm/c6949e9ad47392ef2a7307641cc014a0_HIST_PAINEL_COVIDBR_05jun2020.xlsx https://mobileapps.saude.gov.br/esus-vepi/files/unAFkcaNDeXa...
  - sizeofchar 6y ago
    This is not true at all. We are not having thousand deaths per day, but thousand confirmations of death by covid per day, meaning that most of those died in past days.
    - ufo 6y ago
      No matter how you cut it, we are getting thousands of deaths per day. The problem is that the government wants to change the published statistics to only show the people who died of confirmed COVID infection in the same day as the report has come out. Most deaths take a couple of days to be added to the system so this methodology would significantly under report the real number of deaths per day.
      - sizeofchar 6y ago
        I see contradiction between your two paragraphs. First, there is no cut to thousand deaths per day. But then, the government is able to do it?
        ufo 6y ago
        "No matterhow you cut it" is an english expression. It means that no matter the choice of statistics the deaths per day in brazil are very high. One way to report the numbers is say how many deaths were registered into the system each day. This is the "freshest" statistic you can get, but it mixes data from different days. This statistic can't be used to plot a pandemic growth curve but it can be used to keep track of the total number of deaths. Another way to measure it is so count the number of people that died on each given day, no matter how long it took for the death was registered into the system. This statistic is different from the first one but but it should be in the same order of magnitude (given that the first statistic is approximately a rolling average of the second one) The key limitation of the second statistic exact number can only be known after at least a week has passed, because of the time it takes for the deaths to be added into the system. This is where the government's dishonesty comes in. They wanted to change the daily reports so that they would only include deaths that were added to the system in the same day where the person died. Any deaths that were not reported in the same day (which is the majority of deaths) would be left out of the statistics entirely.
- marcosdumay 6y ago
  By now you mean the numbers for today? I wouldn't trust the last week of numbers at all. It takes time to notarize the deaths, and time to consolidate the numbers. Also don't trust within week distribution, because the deaths aren't reported at the same day they happen. Overall, this is a reliable number. It's mostly impossible to hide a death in Brazil, there are way too many different actors watching those. And this is a paragovernamental organization (think about the US FED) that has all interest on not be caught by the public doing a bad job.

satya71 6y ago

I don't understand Portuguese, but all the charts are at 0 now. That can't be right.

spyremeown 6y ago
I do. They basically stopped updating the database. We were getting 1000+ deaths/day. They say they're going to "recount" because they don't trust the numbers are right. Everyone here knows it's just a political move.
- turrini 6y ago
  Sorry but this is incorrect. The numbers are being updated once a day at 10 pm. And yes, the actual and previous numbers are under investigation by the Federal Police.
  - spyremeown 6y ago
    Dude, look at the graph on the given link above. Deaths literally went from 1000+ to 61 yesterday. Also, in the main panel [1] the gov. quit updating the total death count and does not let you download the .csv like they did before, but still keep the total death count for the day. [1] https://covid.saude.gov.br/ https://covid.saude.gov.br/
    - turrini 6y ago
      That's a dashboard, read the about section that explains it. Here is the CSV: https://mobileapps.saude.gov.br/esus-vepi/files/unAFkcaNDeXajurGB7LChj8SgQYS2ptm/c6949e9ad47392ef2a7307641cc014a0_HIST_PAINEL_COVIDBR_05jun2020.xlsx https://mobileapps.saude.gov.br/esus-vepi/files/unAFkcaNDeXa...
- sizeofchar 6y ago
  This is not true at all. We are not having thousand deaths per day, but thousand confirmations of death by covid per day, meaning that most of those died in past days.
  - ufo 6y ago
    No matter how you cut it, we are getting thousands of deaths per day. The problem is that the government wants to change the published statistics to only show the people who died of confirmed COVID infection in the same day as the report has come out. Most deaths take a couple of days to be added to the system so this methodology would significantly under report the real number of deaths per day.
    - sizeofchar 6y ago
      I see contradiction between your two paragraphs. First, there is no cut to thousand deaths per day. But then, the government is able to do it?
      - ufo 6y ago
        "No matterhow you cut it" is an english expression. It means that no matter the choice of statistics the deaths per day in brazil are very high. One way to report the numbers is say how many deaths were registered into the system each day. This is the "freshest" statistic you can get, but it mixes data from different days. This statistic can't be used to plot a pandemic growth curve but it can be used to keep track of the total number of deaths. Another way to measure it is so count the number of people that died on each given day, no matter how long it took for the death was registered into the system. This statistic is different from the first one but but it should be in the same order of magnitude (given that the first statistic is approximately a rolling average of the second one) The key limitation of the second statistic exact number can only be known after at least a week has passed, because of the time it takes for the deaths to be added into the system. This is where the government's dishonesty comes in. They wanted to change the daily reports so that they would only include deaths that were added to the system in the same day where the person died. Any deaths that were not reported in the same day (which is the majority of deaths) would be left out of the statistics entirely.
marcosdumay 6y ago
By now you mean the numbers for today? I wouldn't trust the last week of numbers at all. It takes time to notarize the deaths, and time to consolidate the numbers. Also don't trust within week distribution, because the deaths aren't reported at the same day they happen. Overall, this is a reliable number. It's mostly impossible to hide a death in Brazil, there are way too many different actors watching those. And this is a paragovernamental organization (think about the US FED) that has all interest on not be caught by the public doing a bad job.