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I really really implore you to read up on this stuff more. It's clear that you haven't approached the subject of racism with humility, humbleness, or even the

I really really implore you to read up on this stuff more. It's clear that you haven't approached the subject of racism with humility, humbleness, or even the possibility that you aren't the best person to know about the issues that other people face. You are right in a way, I am discounting a person who hasn't felt the effects of racism to fully understand racism and give a good opinion on it. Which seems like a pretty good benchmark? I think your response to this enforces that those who haven't felt it aren't good judges of it.

manigandham 6y ago
How is it clear? Is your claim that only certain groups feel racism? And are these groups defined by their race? If so, isn't that inherently racist? What is the basis for your assumption that I have not felt racism, which you seem to be using to say that my perspective is not as valid?
- foldr 6y ago
  >Is your claim that only certain groups feel racism? And are these groups defined by their race? If so, isn't that inherently racist? No, obviously not. Otherwise it would be, for example, inherently racist to say that black slaves in 1700 felt racism whereas white colonists did not. In fact, the statement is both obviously true and obviously not racist.
  - manigandham 6y ago
    Then I would like that person to clarify how they judge who "hasn't felt the effects of racism", and how they're applying that to me.
    - foldr 6y ago
      No-one is talking about you. They're talking about broadly-defined groups of people (e.g. white people, black people).
      - manigandham 6y ago
        > "It's clear that you ... aren't the best person to know about the issues" That was directed at me specifically. Why are you answering for them? > "discounting a person who hasn't felt the effects of racism" That's the claim. How do they know someone hasn't felt the effects? Based on their race? So they're using nothing but race to define and determine who is what - which is quite literally racist.
freespeechkami 6y ago
Consider the following. I suffer from experiencing the results of x-ism from class y in power. I am the only member of this marginalized group in society, and the only one who has "felt the effects of [x]-ism". I require you to put me in power to absolve the effects of x-ism through methods that include the marginalization (but not x-ism) of groups who are neither suffering from the effects of x-ism or are x-ists themselves. Do you see the reductio ad absurdum?

manigandham 6y ago

How is it clear? Is your claim that only certain groups feel racism? And are these groups defined by their race? If so, isn't that inherently racist? What is the basis for your assumption that I have not felt racism, which you seem to be using to say that my perspective is not as valid?

foldr 6y ago
>Is your claim that only certain groups feel racism? And are these groups defined by their race? If so, isn't that inherently racist? No, obviously not. Otherwise it would be, for example, inherently racist to say that black slaves in 1700 felt racism whereas white colonists did not. In fact, the statement is both obviously true and obviously not racist.
- manigandham 6y ago
  Then I would like that person to clarify how they judge who "hasn't felt the effects of racism", and how they're applying that to me.
  - foldr 6y ago
    No-one is talking about you. They're talking about broadly-defined groups of people (e.g. white people, black people).
    - manigandham 6y ago
      > "It's clear that you ... aren't the best person to know about the issues" That was directed at me specifically. Why are you answering for them? > "discounting a person who hasn't felt the effects of racism" That's the claim. How do they know someone hasn't felt the effects? Based on their race? So they're using nothing but race to define and determine who is what - which is quite literally racist.

freespeechkami 6y ago

Consider the following. I suffer from experiencing the results of x-ism from class y in power. I am the only member of this marginalized group in society, and the only one who has "felt the effects of [x]-ism". I require you to put me in power to absolve the effects of x-ism through methods that include the marginalization (but not x-ism) of groups who are neither suffering from the effects of x-ism or are x-ists themselves. Do you see the reductio ad absurdum?