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To quote arguments that were thrown at people who wanted to do things like hold funerals for loved ones, visit dying relatives, protest against destroying the l

To quote arguments that were thrown at people who wanted to do things like hold funerals for loved ones, visit dying relatives, protest against destroying the life's work of small business owners, etc: - You can do this over Zoom / online - Just because this is important to YOU does NOT give you the right to sacrifice the lives of the others who will be denied hospital care because of your selfishness - You really can't wait a couple months until this LITERAL PANDEMIC is over?

dagnabbit 6y ago
You've been on team "let the virus rip through the population" from the start. As such, it is unsurprising that you are taking policies created thoughtfully to try to minimize overall harm and unnecessary deaths, and instead of framing them that way, are pretending that those policies were the result of their least tactful defenders.
alpha_squared 6y ago
> You really can't wait a couple months until this LITERAL PANDEMIC is over? Where does "a couple months" come from?
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  The pandemic won't go away in a few months, but cases are trending significantly downwards. I think it's fair to predict that mass gatherings will be much safer in August than they are today.
  - alpha_squared 6y ago
    As far as I'm aware, and I'd certainly welcome any information otherwise, super-spreader events are unpredictably random. Coupled with the incubation period, that still sounds like another wave.
  - second--shift 6y ago
    > but cases are trending significantly downwards I don't mean to nitpick, as I wish to uphold the high community standards here, but this is false when compared to the worldwide data in aggregate. New cases are actually spiking, higher than during the lockdown. See [1] , at the bottom right, "daily cases" tab. The record for 'total daily new cases' of ~130k was set 2 days ago, on 3 June. Making individual (or collective) decisions based on the false premise of "cases are trending significantly downwards" is very dangerous. [1] https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
    - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
      Yes, sorry, I was imprecise. Cases in the US are trending downwards and deaths are trending even further down, but there are many sub-areas of the US and other areas in the world where this isn't true.

dagnabbit 6y ago

You've been on team "let the virus rip through the population" from the start. As such, it is unsurprising that you are taking policies created thoughtfully to try to minimize overall harm and unnecessary deaths, and instead of framing them that way, are pretending that those policies were the result of their least tactful defenders.

alpha_squared 6y ago

> You really can't wait a couple months until this LITERAL PANDEMIC is over? Where does "a couple months" come from?

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
The pandemic won't go away in a few months, but cases are trending significantly downwards. I think it's fair to predict that mass gatherings will be much safer in August than they are today.
- alpha_squared 6y ago
  As far as I'm aware, and I'd certainly welcome any information otherwise, super-spreader events are unpredictably random. Coupled with the incubation period, that still sounds like another wave.
- second--shift 6y ago
  > but cases are trending significantly downwards I don't mean to nitpick, as I wish to uphold the high community standards here, but this is false when compared to the worldwide data in aggregate. New cases are actually spiking, higher than during the lockdown. See [1] , at the bottom right, "daily cases" tab. The record for 'total daily new cases' of ~130k was set 2 days ago, on 3 June. Making individual (or collective) decisions based on the false premise of "cases are trending significantly downwards" is very dangerous. [1] https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    Yes, sorry, I was imprecise. Cases in the US are trending downwards and deaths are trending even further down, but there are many sub-areas of the US and other areas in the world where this isn't true.