6 ms·

I know you US people are going through tough times and I deeply sympathize with you, but I'm not fan of political ads in release announcements. There are countl

I know you US people are going through tough times and I deeply sympathize with you, but I'm not fan of political ads in release announcements. There are countless more serious problems in the world that would also deserve some publicity, but I don't want to see them there. If I'm alone with this I'm sorry and I'll shut up.

masonium 6y ago
To be clear, it's possibly a political statement but it's hardly an ad, at least in any sense that people (Americans?) traditionally use the term. I also don't think that the existence of 'more important' issues precludes the discussion of other issues that may be relevant to a large number of people (or a small number of people, for that matter). I would certainly find it annoying if every political conversation I took part in were interrupted with "Well, that's nothing to be compared to climate change", even if I believed it to be true.
- IshKebab 6y ago
  It is clearly an ad. Not a commercial ad but those aren't the only kind (as you pointed out). They've opened themselves up to arguments over what non Rust-related cause to advertise next! "For Rust 1.45 I think we should put replace the release notes with a message about the civil war in Yemen."
  - heavenlyblue 6y ago
    Tech is a first-world thing. It is quite clear that the problems in the most tech-y country in the world would spill into tech itself. By the way, the same thing happens with for example suicides at Chinese factories: companies do take a stance which source from these factories because it directly affects them.
    - ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago
      > Tech is a first-world thing. Wow, quite a statement. Guess I'm giving up on coding, then.
sgt 6y ago
Agreed. Tech is and should never be political. These kinds of statements also basically says you are not welcome if you decide not to support movements like BLM. Perhaps as a user it does not matter, but imagine if you were a maintainer? Best to keep these discussions out of Rust and other projects as much as possible. So yes, you are not alone in this. I have to point out however that there are aspects of just pure human decency that should be a given in any kind of collaborative project.
- dav_p23 6y ago
  I might be wrong, but police shows little to no respect for any human being right now. Old people getting hurt because they are "standing in the way" has nothing to do with political views. Just my 2c,oc.
- adamch 6y ago
  > Tech is and should never be political I'm curious, do you think internet companies should refrain from releasing statements about political issues like net neutrality or the Patriot Act?
  - sgt 6y ago
    No, but I think that's more comparable to e.g. the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (only the opposite). Even then, it's outside the scope of these software projects, in my view.

masonium 6y ago

To be clear, it's possibly a political statement but it's hardly an ad, at least in any sense that people (Americans?) traditionally use the term. I also don't think that the existence of 'more important' issues precludes the discussion of other issues that may be relevant to a large number of people (or a small number of people, for that matter). I would certainly find it annoying if every political conversation I took part in were interrupted with "Well, that's nothing to be compared to climate change", even if I believed it to be true.

IshKebab 6y ago
It is clearly an ad. Not a commercial ad but those aren't the only kind (as you pointed out). They've opened themselves up to arguments over what non Rust-related cause to advertise next! "For Rust 1.45 I think we should put replace the release notes with a message about the civil war in Yemen."
- heavenlyblue 6y ago
  Tech is a first-world thing. It is quite clear that the problems in the most tech-y country in the world would spill into tech itself. By the way, the same thing happens with for example suicides at Chinese factories: companies do take a stance which source from these factories because it directly affects them.
  - ZoomZoomZoom 6y ago
    > Tech is a first-world thing. Wow, quite a statement. Guess I'm giving up on coding, then.

sgt 6y ago

Agreed. Tech is and should never be political. These kinds of statements also basically says you are not welcome if you decide not to support movements like BLM. Perhaps as a user it does not matter, but imagine if you were a maintainer? Best to keep these discussions out of Rust and other projects as much as possible. So yes, you are not alone in this. I have to point out however that there are aspects of just pure human decency that should be a given in any kind of collaborative project.

dav_p23 6y ago
I might be wrong, but police shows little to no respect for any human being right now. Old people getting hurt because they are "standing in the way" has nothing to do with political views. Just my 2c,oc.
adamch 6y ago
> Tech is and should never be political I'm curious, do you think internet companies should refrain from releasing statements about political issues like net neutrality or the Patriot Act?
- sgt 6y ago
  No, but I think that's more comparable to e.g. the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (only the opposite). Even then, it's outside the scope of these software projects, in my view.