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San Fran also has over 8k homeless in a population of 800k. The overall homeless rate in France is about 5x lower per capita. My opinion on paying taxes change

San Fran also has over 8k homeless in a population of 800k. The overall homeless rate in France is about 5x lower per capita. My opinion on paying taxes changed drastically after I visited the USA 2 years ago (San Fran, LA, Vegas). I was absolutely shocked by the amount of poverty I saw and I had never realised that America had such a drastically different culture to Australia.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
https://sf.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21027974/san-francisco-homeless-decade-2010s-kositsky-navigation-center-friedenbach https://sf.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21027974/san-francisco-home... For the 2019-2020 fiscal year, San Francisco will spend $364 million on the homeless. I think there are other major issues besides lack of money from lack of taxes. For one thing, when comparing per capita, you shouldn't just look at the population of San Francisco. A lot of those 8k homeless people came from other parts of the state or even other parts of the country to San Francisco. This is in large part that San Francisco has nice weather and is relatively welcoming to the homeless compared to a lot of cities and jurisdictions. Whereas in a lot of cities, homeless residents might get a lot of harrassment from the police, in San Francisico for the most part they are left alone. So when doing per capita homelessness in San Francisco, you probably need to look at a much larger overall population that just that of San Francisco.
- imtringued 6y ago
  That still leaves a 3.5 times higher homeless rate per capita than in France. One third is a lot but it's not the driving force behind homelessness. >As of 2014, the city was believed to have approximately 7,000 homeless residents.[55][56] As of 2015, approximately 71% of the city's homeless had housing in the city before becoming homeless, while the remaining 29% came from outside of San Francisco. This figure is up from 61% in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_San_Francisco_Bay_Area#San_Francisco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_San_Franci...
Haga 6y ago
The taxes in the US are just hidden away in privat services. Your gated community guard. Your doctor. Your car. Your kids educationaand school. All the things in Europe provided, you pay extra.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago

https://sf.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21027974/san-francisco-homeless-decade-2010s-kositsky-navigation-center-friedenbach https://sf.curbed.com/2019/12/19/21027974/san-francisco-home... For the 2019-2020 fiscal year, San Francisco will spend $364 million on the homeless. I think there are other major issues besides lack of money from lack of taxes. For one thing, when comparing per capita, you shouldn't just look at the population of San Francisco. A lot of those 8k homeless people came from other parts of the state or even other parts of the country to San Francisco. This is in large part that San Francisco has nice weather and is relatively welcoming to the homeless compared to a lot of cities and jurisdictions. Whereas in a lot of cities, homeless residents might get a lot of harrassment from the police, in San Francisico for the most part they are left alone. So when doing per capita homelessness in San Francisco, you probably need to look at a much larger overall population that just that of San Francisco.

imtringued 6y ago
That still leaves a 3.5 times higher homeless rate per capita than in France. One third is a lot but it's not the driving force behind homelessness. >As of 2014, the city was believed to have approximately 7,000 homeless residents.[55][56] As of 2015, approximately 71% of the city's homeless had housing in the city before becoming homeless, while the remaining 29% came from outside of San Francisco. This figure is up from 61% in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_San_Francisco_Bay_Area#San_Francisco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homelessness_in_the_San_Franci...

Haga 6y ago

The taxes in the US are just hidden away in privat services. Your gated community guard. Your doctor. Your car. Your kids educationaand school. All the things in Europe provided, you pay extra.