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Show HN: Daily non-commercial blog posts which didn't reach HN's front page
- polote 6y agoHello, I've used to rely on HN to discover new blogs, but recently I feel like a lot of content is just news article and very often several time the same news which reach the front page (even though still a lot of blog posts become popular). This has already been discussed here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23093990 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23093990 in case you are interested. This is disappointing for me because there are still a lot of people who submit quality blog posts every day on HN and those content are just mixed long all the other posts and most of them never reach the front page. So every day I go through all the links posted the current day on HN and keep only the non commercial blog posts, (and I removed the ones that reached the front page) there are not that many of them, about a dozen every day, and I build an article listing all those links. (Note that some blog posts can end up being popular on HN after I created the daily article) Feel free to subscribe, this is on substack but this is completely free. Somehow a substack blog is very quick to create, even if I hate their product.
- dvxvd 6y agoExactly!
- soneca 6y agoWhy do you hate their product? I am curious because I happen to love their product, even though I only use it as a free blog/newsletter hosting too. But the paid newsletter incentives make a lot of sense to me (as it will never substitute free content, if that’s what you are worried about). No affiliation, although I would like to have. I applied two times to work there but got rejected
- polote 6y agoI don't want to do a negative review , I think the value they provide is great, but the actual product is not very good. Like no api, low customization of text in the editor, ux of header difficult to understand, I did not like using the product
- CGamesPlay 6y agoNeat! I subscribed via RSS. Can you expound on what exactly the criteria are? I'm assuming it's subjective, which is fine, but since almost all submissions are on the front page for at least a few seconds, I'm curious how this part works. Also worth pointing out (maybe there's another product for this): I would also be interested in things that maybe made the front page but I still missed, perhaps because they were only on the front page for a few hours.
- franky47 6y agoFor those who also want to subscribe by RSS, here's the URL: https://hnblogs.substack.com/feed https://hnblogs.substack.com/feed
- Semaphor 6y agoBut if your feedreader does not pick that up when adding https://hnblogs.substack.com/ https://hnblogs.substack.com/ directly, you might want to switch to a better reader ;)
- franky47 6y agoI use Slack to get notifications on new articles (I then read them on the original website), and it does not resolve to /feed. Is there a standard for feed paths (/rss.xml seems common) that readers crawl when given a URL ?
- Semaphor 6y agoIt’s not a standard path, it’s this element: <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" href="/feed/" title="Hn blogs newsletter"/> You can even have multiple (I think wordpress standard is "articles" and "comments" feeds) of them for different feeds.
- polote 6y agoI try to be the less subjective as possible, I only list recent posts, not associated with a company, not on a popular topic, somewhat related to tech, works without cookies, less than 5 up votesand it looks like a blog. If you verify all those, this is pretty likely to be included
- fao_ 6y agoYou might like http://news.ycombinator.com/classic http://news.ycombinator.com/classic which uses an older ranking algorithm that (IMO) delivers more interesting news
- drannex 6y agoI had no clue that was a thing and been here for years, that algo is far better.
- Tomte 6y agoI also wish, all those "special URLs" were documented somewhere. There are quite a few of those.
- jakub_g 6y agoDidn't know about "classic" either! I listed some non-discoverable URLs here: https://gist.github.com/jakub-g/803ad2c074ad1fbe2af5 https://gist.github.com/jakub-g/803ad2c074ad1fbe2af5 Happy to discover more - please put comments here or on the gist.
- mkl 6y agoLots of info collected by minimaxir here: https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented
- alexpetralia 6y agoI love the idea of exposing different algorithms so that upvotes are distributed a little more evenly.
- rendall 6y agoGreat! Subscribed!
- heycesr 6y agoShameless plug: I built Typehut[1] for use cases like this, spinning up a super quick blog/publication that people can subscribe to. Custom templates and domains are built-in too. [1] https://typehut.com https://typehut.com
- specialist 6y ago"because there are still a lot of people who submit quality blog posts every day on HN" I'd like a follow feature.
- macintux 6y agoNice service, thanks. Might I suggest an international-friendly date format? YYYY-MM-DD is much easier, as an American, for me to process than DD/MM/YY.
- floatingatoll 6y agoYYYYMMDD ordering is also ISO8601 compliant, which is a great reason to use it :)
- zapzupnz 6y agoEven better would be locale-sensitive formatting.
- alexandercrohde 6y agoI only see like 10 results? I imagine there are at least 50 non-professional blog posts submitted to HN a day
- dgb23 6y agoIt seems to me that the list is curated: https://hnblogs.substack.com/about https://hnblogs.substack.com/about
- satvikpendem 6y agoIt's curated, and you can click on each one to expand the list.
- zaat 6y agoAs someone who rarely submits anything, it can be pretty disappointing on those rare occasions when I do try post something I found interesting and see it failing to invoke any interest whatsoever. Than again, I just published two days ago what I found to be an extremely interesting and well written non-commercial blog post and not only did it fail to grasp anyone's attention, it didn't even got into your list. Oh well, at least it isn't my own post.
- SubiculumCode 6y agoI've had a few submissions reach the front page, but I can never predict which ones will do so...definitely not the ones I thought were extra cool.
- rammy1234 6y agonever got any interest in any non-commercial blog posts I found interesting but never generated any fumes.
- dang 6y agoWhat's the most extra cool one that never made it?
- ComputerGuru 6y agoI’m not the poster you asked, but I was extremely surprised when my article on what it took to write a native iMessage client for Windows 10 and the roadblocks and traps Apple left to stop it from happening didn’t get more than a handful of votes; it really seemed to me to be exactly the mix of things that HN readers normally ask for more of. https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/ https://neosmart.net/blog/2018/imessage-for-windows/
- dang 6y agoThe dominant factor in what gets traction off /newest is randomness, unfortunately, so you can't conclude anything from one or two data points. I'll send you a repost invite for that one.
- julianeon 6y agoI like this, because sometimes I check Hacker New's New section, and honestly compared to every other site I know of, it's a veritable gold mine of terrific, thoughtful content (compare to reddit's absolute bottom-of-the-barrel, pure filler stuff). So I approve of anything that helps me get through it, and see more excellent content.
- QUFB 6y agoI don't really appreciate the attempt to collect my email address. When clicking on a link, it's nice to see the content directly.
- satvikpendem 6y agoThat's on Substack, not the creator, you can click the "Let me read it first" link to see the articles. What is annoying, and understandable based on your perspective, is that clicking the link doesn't change the URL (it's entirely client side routing) so that OP couldn't have posted just the articles but had to make it show the email form first.
- satvikpendem 6y agoI've been reading this for the past few days, it's been really great!
- fossuser 6y agoThanks for this - in case you missed it I created a r/hnblogs subreddit last week to try and make it easier for some of this non-commerical content within the community to be surfaced. Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/ https://www.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/ Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23287286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23287286 It's an ongoing experiment, but it's been going well so far and there have been a lot of interesting posts. It's basically people from the HN community, but the submissions are restricted to (your own) personal blog. If you're relying on manual curation it might be easier to grab things from there (there's an aggregate RSS feed you can get in the sidebar).
- whycombagator 6y agoAlternate link: https://old.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/ https://old.reddit.com/r/hnblogs/
- randompwd 6y agoGreat idea. I tried subscribing to a 'best of HN' newsletter and set it to be every 2 then 3 days. Very disappointed with the content that was coming through. Hope this curation remains sustainable.
- chrischen 6y agoI would imagine most people who read "new" are themselves just checking on their own submissions, which might bias the type of things upvoted (for example a post on how to get traction on HN might be biased). Might I suggest a feature that gives all new posts some spot on the front page, even if for just a short while?
- dang 6y agoWe tried that a while back. It didn't go well. Let me see if I can find what I posted about it. Edit: Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21868928 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21868928. I'm pretty sure I posted about it elsewhere too.
- saagarjha 6y agoA somewhat related question since you’re here: do you have any ideas for people who don’t really vote to do this kind of dredging? Personally, I tend to use upvote/downvote a lot more cautiously than most people, treating it as some might consider “favorite” or “flag” (in fact, I run into the dilemma on which to use quite frequently; a notable narcissistic exception is that I will upvote my content if it’s posted here). I’d like to be able to mark something as “this is on-topic for Hacker News” but not mark it as “I liked it”, which I can’t really find a button for as upvoting does both…
- dang 6y agoI agree that "on topic vs. off topic" and "like vs. dislike" are two different signals, and it's possible that "on topic vs. off topic" is actually the more valuable signal for surfacing good stories. But how would we encode this in the UI? The upvote arrow is by now a standard UI mechanism. It isn't obvious how we might factor it into two completely different things.
- user5994461 6y agoI check the new section from time to time and I agree with the link you posted that there is a lot of junk/spam in there. It's no surprise that they can't just be randomly put into the main pages. Having a look at the 15 latest submissions for example. I roughly see: SEO spam, trump spam, a super complex physics paper, 4 well known news site, 3 university websites, VC spam, spam, one pdf download, a couple of articles, etc... I think HN could do with a "curated new" section besides the general "new" section. A bit of filtering to remove high volume subjects (virus, climate, trump) and to remove major news sites (new york times, bbc and co) and maybe university/paper sites. That should leave room to lower volume sites and personal blogs. Maybe filter to domains that had at least one article with 100 votes in the past years and see what's left.
- dang 6y agoGiven that unpredictability is key to curiosity (see [1] and [2]), we're very open to ideas about how to make HN's front page more uncorrelated. A suggestion I heard recently was to downweight the most commonly submitted sites (there are lots of different ways one could do this). A common complaint is that there are too many mainstream news articles that are too samey with each other. I'm sympathetic to that too. Anyone want to make more suggestions? I'm going to downweight this subthread itself, so it doesn't distract too much from polote's Show HN. [1] The best submissions are ones that you can't predict from any sequence of previous submissions. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20can%27t%20predict%20from%20sequence&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... [2] Curiosity abhors repetition. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20curiosity%20repetition&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- bachmeier 6y agoIn my opinion, the problem is less correlation of articles on the HN front page and more correlation across news sources. A lot of stuff from the NY Times gets to the front page, for instance. What makes that really bad is that there are a lot of stories behind paywalls or that require registration. The discussion is a regurgitation of discussions elsewhere because everyone comments on the title. I would love it if paywalled/registration required sites would get downweighted so as to encourage a discussion of the article. Another change I'd like would be programming language stories downweighted based on how many other stories on that language recently hit the front page. It's no secret that the latest fad is Rust, and while it's everyone's right to like any language they want, it certainly doesn't increase HN's value to have yet another story about a library update for [language of the week], and a general discussion about [language of the week] rather than about the post.
- Tomte 6y ago> I would love it if paywalled/registration required sites would get downweighted so as to encourage a discussion of the article. That's only a problem when these sites get posted a lot. Counterpoint: The London Review of Books had a few front page appearances here, it is a site posted quite seldom, it has spectacular articles, and because it's posted so rarely, pretty much everyone who clicks on it will still be within his number of "free articles".
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- aww_dang 6y agoI'd like to see a list of domains which are frequently shadowbanned.
- xueyongg 6y agoReally love how there is a strong support for technical blogs and also keep good and interesting articles in public's eye! Personally, I've written some of my learnings as a software engineer from Michael Jordan which I thought was really interesting to share with you all. Hope you all enjoy! Do leave your feedback and comments so I can hear your thoughts as well (: https://blog.phuaxueyong.com/post/2020-05-30-6-things-michael-jordan-taught-me/ https://blog.phuaxueyong.com/post/2020-05-30-6-things-michae...
- pmlnr 6y agoI like the idea. Problem: https://substack.com/privacy https://substack.com/privacy > Through cookies we place on your browser or device, we may collect information about your online activity after you leave our Services.
- tutfbhuf 6y agoI would like to have the possibility to discuss certain posts, that have been flagged to death, because they talk about sex or racism. I know that HN is not the best place for such topics, however I would like to read what HN folks think about it. Is there some way to do so?
- realgabriel 6y agoThis is a great idea, considering the recent talk around HN about the blogging. Congratulations! I have a question: for example, yesterday I posted a link to my blog, but was not on yesterday's post. Do you have some rules on what makes it to the list and what doesn't?
- polote 6y agoYes there are, in your case, it is a language specific article, which I tend to not keep, but your previous article would have been included for example
- ryan-allen 6y agoI had a read through the collated articles (and signed up), I already have found a few post that I'm glad that I have read them. This is a good idea. Thank you for making it!
- mosselman 6y agoThis is great, already, looking through a few days, I have found more interesting things than the top stuff right now. Subscribed through RSS
- mrweasel 6y agoInteresting, but why is it a newsletter?