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Sorry, your comment might make some good points but you lost me, your reader, when you made absolute claims about police officers. There certainly exist police

Sorry, your comment might make some good points but you lost me, your reader, when you made absolute claims about police officers. There certainly exist police that just want to be tough guys and beat people up. But there’s plenty officers not like that. You detract from your other points by taking such a black and white stance.

matwood 6y ago
On one hand I agree. I’m sure the majority of cops are good people doing a hard job. But, at some point it becomes a loss of institutional control (to take a term from the ncaa). Everyone needs to be fired and the institution has to be restarted.
- sockgrant 6y ago
  That could be. I haven’t given much thought on how to solve the problem. It could also be that we need to kill laws that are protecting police from the justice system.
olliej 6y ago
And yet none of those officers turn in the abusive officers, and in fact are often pushed out of the force, if not straight up fired. So officers working side by side with abusive officers are absolutely complicit.
- sockgrant 6y ago
  That doesn’t mean that all officers are bad. Good cops exist.
sneak 6y ago
It astounds me that people persist in this naive, ignorant, and destructive viewpoint even when provided with gigabytes upon gigabytes of video evidence to the contrary. "Cop" isn't just a job. It's a social contract amongst the police and prosecutorial apparatus. There are no police for the police. Police rape and murder with impunity. Did you know that cops beat their domestic partners at a rate 5x greater than the general population? Fully 40% of cops are wife beaters. They can do whatever they want, and taxpayers end up paying the civil suit settlements that follow. This isn't an issue with some criminal minority. Everyone who wears the uniform is either a criminal directly, or is actively engaged in the criminal conspiracy to hide evidence of the group's criminal activities. The ones that don't play ball are forced out. Here's one from yesterday: they all somehow had their body cameras off when they murdered another black guy. https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867281529/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-black-man-is-shot-to-death https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867281529/louisville-police-c... If people didn't stop being willfully blind when it came out that Chicago PD has a whole dedicated black site for kidnapping and torturing people prior to trial, they probably won't ever be. There are no good career cops. The entire concept is rotten to its core, which was created and established specifically to address the risk of property damage by the poor and escaped slaves. The first letter of ACAB is by far the most important one.
- sockgrant 6y ago
  You got sources for those stats? > There are no good career cops I’ve watched a few videos of cops kneeling with protestors or cops laying down guns and walking with them. Are those bad cops? When you say “there are no good career cops” that means there doesn’t exist one good career cop. It’s a ludicrous thing to say.
  - sneak 6y ago
    The way that cops support the thing that protestors are trying to achieve is not by kneeling, it's by taking off the uniform and the genocide flag.
- sockgrant 6y ago
  There’s gigabytes of video of every cop in the US? And every one of them is a racist brutality piece of trash? Can you show me this archive? Or are you saying that there’s hundreds of videos of piece of trash cops and you’re projecting that to all cops?

matwood 6y ago

On one hand I agree. I’m sure the majority of cops are good people doing a hard job. But, at some point it becomes a loss of institutional control (to take a term from the ncaa). Everyone needs to be fired and the institution has to be restarted.

sockgrant 6y ago
That could be. I haven’t given much thought on how to solve the problem. It could also be that we need to kill laws that are protecting police from the justice system.

olliej 6y ago

And yet none of those officers turn in the abusive officers, and in fact are often pushed out of the force, if not straight up fired. So officers working side by side with abusive officers are absolutely complicit.

sockgrant 6y ago
That doesn’t mean that all officers are bad. Good cops exist.

sneak 6y ago

It astounds me that people persist in this naive, ignorant, and destructive viewpoint even when provided with gigabytes upon gigabytes of video evidence to the contrary. "Cop" isn't just a job. It's a social contract amongst the police and prosecutorial apparatus. There are no police for the police. Police rape and murder with impunity. Did you know that cops beat their domestic partners at a rate 5x greater than the general population? Fully 40% of cops are wife beaters. They can do whatever they want, and taxpayers end up paying the civil suit settlements that follow. This isn't an issue with some criminal minority. Everyone who wears the uniform is either a criminal directly, or is actively engaged in the criminal conspiracy to hide evidence of the group's criminal activities. The ones that don't play ball are forced out. Here's one from yesterday: they all somehow had their body cameras off when they murdered another black guy. https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867281529/louisville-police-chief-fired-after-black-man-is-shot-to-death https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01/867281529/louisville-police-c... If people didn't stop being willfully blind when it came out that Chicago PD has a whole dedicated black site for kidnapping and torturing people prior to trial, they probably won't ever be. There are no good career cops. The entire concept is rotten to its core, which was created and established specifically to address the risk of property damage by the poor and escaped slaves. The first letter of ACAB is by far the most important one.

sockgrant 6y ago
You got sources for those stats? > There are no good career cops I’ve watched a few videos of cops kneeling with protestors or cops laying down guns and walking with them. Are those bad cops? When you say “there are no good career cops” that means there doesn’t exist one good career cop. It’s a ludicrous thing to say.
- sneak 6y ago
  The way that cops support the thing that protestors are trying to achieve is not by kneeling, it's by taking off the uniform and the genocide flag.
sockgrant 6y ago
There’s gigabytes of video of every cop in the US? And every one of them is a racist brutality piece of trash? Can you show me this archive? Or are you saying that there’s hundreds of videos of piece of trash cops and you’re projecting that to all cops?