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Pompeo says U.S. considers welcoming Hong Kong people, entrepreneurs

28 points by adventured 6y ago

tibbydudeza 6y ago
Ironic considering the race riots in the US.
- blaser-waffle 6y ago
  HK-ers aren't black. And, as of yet, have never been abused by US police.
plurinshael 6y ago
Yes, this was probably an excellent time to put forth this proposition.
shams93 6y ago
So no jobs or even food for Americans but we can cut Hong Kong people bug fat breaks while we are starving out own so hard it's causing permanent riots lol.
- digitaltrees 6y ago
  Please don’t frame these things as either or, America has the capacity to do both. If you don’t like a policy that harms Americans say that and limit your argument to that. Hong Kong people are humans too and we can help them if we have the will. And by the way. 3 Trillion dollars went to help Americans. If more is needed demand it but to say that helping others is some how an indication that we won’t have enough for ourselves is BS.
  - meitham 6y ago
    The world is full of people that need help more than those in Hong Kong, the US admin motivation for help is purely to hurt China, and should not be framed as an act of good.
    - CyberDildonics 6y ago
      It doesn't look like it is about giving anyone money, just making it easier to come to the US.
      - ngcc_hk 6y ago
        Actually Hong Kong people is relatively ok In assets, if this is planned exit. The situation is it is not many HongKong people want to go, especially those in the fight. May be some need an exit, like the girl got rape in police station and ... The fight is about staying to have liberty here. For running we have at least 2m already emigrated before 1997. And I suspect we have another 2m got passport that can go. Not to mention 3m. American role is to provide threat not to move any further. You may be tricked chinese is peaceful. The empire was never. It expands until it was contained or surrounding races all under it. The conflict would not stop. It will at least cover Taiwan. Once that done, the pacific is in play. The whole region is in play. The claim to South China Sea would mean japan is in play as well. You look at the ambitious of this empire from virus investigation, human gene modification, space race, ... it would be a welcome if it is humane and just different way of life. But it is not. What American currently should be worried should be the 85,000 American here instead. If Hker got the killing like Tibet and jail/re-education etc., not sure how they will treat Americans. Like nazi, once they can (and police Abd fireman) call hker cockcoaches, there is no human they saw. It is like the old saying it is the Jews I do not care. when the first explicit violating international treaty is ok with the international community all could be in play ...
        vulcan01 6y ago
        > It is like the old saying it is the Jews I do not care. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
      - weare138 6y ago
        I think what OP is getting at is the inherent hypocrisy of our government implementing policies to severely limit emigration from impoverished nations desperately in need while encouraging fleeing citizens from Hong Kong to bring their economic resources here instead of losing them to China's authoritarian regime. We're preventing people trying to escape China's authoritarian rule from immigrating to the US while at the same time welcoming some of those people trying to escape China's authoritarian rule. What's the difference between the two? Politics and economics. If this were motivated by altruism all things would be equal.
vulcan01 6y ago
I wonder if this was influenced by the UK opening citizenship to HK residents [0][1]. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23385905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23385905 [1]: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hong-kong-residents-uk-china-visa-security-law-a9537996.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hong-kong-res...
Proven 6y ago
That would be very unusual for the US, to allow immigration to a large number of individuals who don't need state handouts.

28 points by adventured 6y ago

tibbydudeza 6y ago

Ironic considering the race riots in the US.

blaser-waffle 6y ago
HK-ers aren't black. And, as of yet, have never been abused by US police.

plurinshael 6y ago

Yes, this was probably an excellent time to put forth this proposition.

shams93 6y ago

So no jobs or even food for Americans but we can cut Hong Kong people bug fat breaks while we are starving out own so hard it's causing permanent riots lol.

digitaltrees 6y ago
Please don’t frame these things as either or, America has the capacity to do both. If you don’t like a policy that harms Americans say that and limit your argument to that. Hong Kong people are humans too and we can help them if we have the will. And by the way. 3 Trillion dollars went to help Americans. If more is needed demand it but to say that helping others is some how an indication that we won’t have enough for ourselves is BS.
- meitham 6y ago
  The world is full of people that need help more than those in Hong Kong, the US admin motivation for help is purely to hurt China, and should not be framed as an act of good.
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    It doesn't look like it is about giving anyone money, just making it easier to come to the US.
    - ngcc_hk 6y ago
      Actually Hong Kong people is relatively ok In assets, if this is planned exit. The situation is it is not many HongKong people want to go, especially those in the fight. May be some need an exit, like the girl got rape in police station and ... The fight is about staying to have liberty here. For running we have at least 2m already emigrated before 1997. And I suspect we have another 2m got passport that can go. Not to mention 3m. American role is to provide threat not to move any further. You may be tricked chinese is peaceful. The empire was never. It expands until it was contained or surrounding races all under it. The conflict would not stop. It will at least cover Taiwan. Once that done, the pacific is in play. The whole region is in play. The claim to South China Sea would mean japan is in play as well. You look at the ambitious of this empire from virus investigation, human gene modification, space race, ... it would be a welcome if it is humane and just different way of life. But it is not. What American currently should be worried should be the 85,000 American here instead. If Hker got the killing like Tibet and jail/re-education etc., not sure how they will treat Americans. Like nazi, once they can (and police Abd fireman) call hker cockcoaches, there is no human they saw. It is like the old saying it is the Jews I do not care. when the first explicit violating international treaty is ok with the international community all could be in play ...
      - vulcan01 6y ago
        > It is like the old saying it is the Jews I do not care. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
    - weare138 6y ago
      I think what OP is getting at is the inherent hypocrisy of our government implementing policies to severely limit emigration from impoverished nations desperately in need while encouraging fleeing citizens from Hong Kong to bring their economic resources here instead of losing them to China's authoritarian regime. We're preventing people trying to escape China's authoritarian rule from immigrating to the US while at the same time welcoming some of those people trying to escape China's authoritarian rule. What's the difference between the two? Politics and economics. If this were motivated by altruism all things would be equal.

vulcan01 6y ago

I wonder if this was influenced by the UK opening citizenship to HK residents [0][1]. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23385905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23385905 [1]: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hong-kong-residents-uk-china-visa-security-law-a9537996.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/hong-kong-res...

Proven 6y ago

That would be very unusual for the US, to allow immigration to a large number of individuals who don't need state handouts.