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Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

by lake99 6y ago

protomyth 6y ago
Apparently, whoever is running that account wants to be part of the current thing and making an enemy of China might not be good for Rust's development. I'm a bit bitter because they haven't given a fig about the minority most likely to be killed by law enforcement than any other racial or ethnic group and even use a license from an organization that domain squats on the very same minority. [edit: yep same as it ever was]
gruez 6y ago
Same reason why sectarian violence in the west garners more sympathy than similar amounts of sectarian violence in africa, the middle east, or asia.
Udik 6y ago
There are no reports of people killed by the police in the HK protests. Source: U.S. Department of State https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/china/hong-kong/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-country-reports-on-human-... "There were no credible reports that the government or its agents committed arbitrary or unlawful killings." Edit: hate to say that, but why instead of clicking the damn downvote button don't you go and actually check if there are recorded deaths?
- lake99 6y ago
  You're using an outdated document as your source. I will not post direct links. Instead, I invite you to browse tags like #HongKongPoliceTerrorism, #HongKongPoliceBrutality, #HKpolice, etc. on Twitter. We all know not to trust COVID death counts from China. HK police brutality is something like that. We have video evidence of a few murders. As for the actual count, no one knows.
  - rvz 6y ago
    And many major tech companies (Apple, Google, YouTube, Bytedance) were censoring the HK protestors with China, Even when a protestor was shot with a live round on Facebook Live. Sounds like double standards with the current action with tech companies.
    - harry8 6y ago
      No not double standards. They are absolutely consistent standards. Zero principles. Pure profit motive. You don't have to run your company like that. This was a choice they have made. (Note that the profit motive isn't always the profit of the shareholders, it is the profit motive of the powerful inside the company). Don't miss the point though. Cannot, under any circumstances be trusted. If they are sufficiently pressured they might do the right thing, or at least pretend to in public. Assume they are lying about everything until proven otherwise is a statement of the obvious.
  - Udik 6y ago
    > You're using an outdated document as your source. You're right, the document is outdated. I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. > I will not post direct links. Please do instead. And no, I don't think twitter is a reliable source, twitter is an information battleground, you should know it. > HK police brutality is something like that. HK citizens have all the means and the interest to spread knowledge of police brutality in their protests. I don't think the comparison with China and covid holds any water (even assuming that what you say about China's covid numbers is true, as "everybody knows" is not a proof).
    - afiori 6y ago
      > I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. Not to deemphasize the seriousness of an actual death, but the difference between shooting at protestors (especially if in a crowd, but I have not seen the video) and casualties is a matter of luck.
ASalazarMX 6y ago
This is YOUR domestic problem, it hits home for many people. If Rust made the same for every injustice in the world, there would be no more tweets from them ever.

Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

by lake99 6y ago

Non-violent protesters were getting killed by Hong Kong's police in broad daylight for the last few months. Were the Rust people not aware of them?

protomyth 6y ago

Apparently, whoever is running that account wants to be part of the current thing and making an enemy of China might not be good for Rust's development. I'm a bit bitter because they haven't given a fig about the minority most likely to be killed by law enforcement than any other racial or ethnic group and even use a license from an organization that domain squats on the very same minority. [edit: yep same as it ever was]

gruez 6y ago

Same reason why sectarian violence in the west garners more sympathy than similar amounts of sectarian violence in africa, the middle east, or asia.

Udik 6y ago

There are no reports of people killed by the police in the HK protests. Source: U.S. Department of State https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/china/hong-kong/ https://www.state.gov/reports/2019-country-reports-on-human-... "There were no credible reports that the government or its agents committed arbitrary or unlawful killings." Edit: hate to say that, but why instead of clicking the damn downvote button don't you go and actually check if there are recorded deaths?

lake99 6y ago
You're using an outdated document as your source. I will not post direct links. Instead, I invite you to browse tags like #HongKongPoliceTerrorism, #HongKongPoliceBrutality, #HKpolice, etc. on Twitter. We all know not to trust COVID death counts from China. HK police brutality is something like that. We have video evidence of a few murders. As for the actual count, no one knows.
- rvz 6y ago
  And many major tech companies (Apple, Google, YouTube, Bytedance) were censoring the HK protestors with China, Even when a protestor was shot with a live round on Facebook Live. Sounds like double standards with the current action with tech companies.
  - harry8 6y ago
    No not double standards. They are absolutely consistent standards. Zero principles. Pure profit motive. You don't have to run your company like that. This was a choice they have made. (Note that the profit motive isn't always the profit of the shareholders, it is the profit motive of the powerful inside the company). Don't miss the point though. Cannot, under any circumstances be trusted. If they are sufficiently pressured they might do the right thing, or at least pretend to in public. Assume they are lying about everything until proven otherwise is a statement of the obvious.
- Udik 6y ago
  > You're using an outdated document as your source. You're right, the document is outdated. I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. > I will not post direct links. Please do instead. And no, I don't think twitter is a reliable source, twitter is an information battleground, you should know it. > HK police brutality is something like that. HK citizens have all the means and the interest to spread knowledge of police brutality in their protests. I don't think the comparison with China and covid holds any water (even assuming that what you say about China's covid numbers is true, as "everybody knows" is not a proof).
  - afiori 6y ago
    > I've searched further and while I did find a few instances of police shooting at protesters, I didn't find deaths. Not to deemphasize the seriousness of an actual death, but the difference between shooting at protestors (especially if in a crowd, but I have not seen the video) and casualties is a matter of luck.

ASalazarMX 6y ago

This is YOUR domestic problem, it hits home for many people. If Rust made the same for every injustice in the world, there would be no more tweets from them ever.