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What you're basically saying is, "sure, this and various experiences show that this kind of policing might make things worse, but hey, at least they have good i
by stephen_g 6y ago
What you're basically saying is, "sure, this and various experiences show that this kind of policing might make things worse, but hey, at least they have good intentions". Well, plenty of terrible things have been done with good intentions.
This is one of the things I really dislike about a lot of politics, I see it all too often. There's a problem, so we need to do something in the name of fixing it - doesn't matter if it helps or not, we just have to be able to say we're doing something. But maybe we should step back and look at whether there are better ways to deal with the problems.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoWe should step back and look! What concerns me about policing is that a lot of proposals seem to reduce to ignoring the problem; there's a particular famous city a bit north of me where it's just become accepted that the streets should be covered in poop and shattered window glass. So I'm skeptical of alternatives which can't clearly explain how they will stop people from doing crimes.
- craftinator 6y ago> Poop and shattered window glass These are symptoms of wealth inequality. Do you see wealthy people going around defecating on the ground or breaking glass? No. Do you see middle class people doing these actions? No. These are actions taken by homeless people (and teenagers), who have nothing worth while to do with their time, no money for idle entertainment, and awful living conditions.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoThis just strikes me as an intensely disrespectful hypothesis. Poor people and teenagers are people just like you and I; the vast majority of them are good citizens who feel no impulse to do crimes or poop on the street.
- pinkfoot 6y agoSingapore has some ideas.
- bjl 6y agoDisneyland with the death penalty. No thanks. I prefer to live in a society that doesn't execute non-violent drug dealers.