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I agree with your overall point, but one of the issues with online learning is the credential received isn't the same value as an in-person one. There are an in

I agree with your overall point, but one of the issues with online learning is the credential received isn't the same value as an in-person one. There are an increasing number of exceptions like the Georgia Tech online masters, but I'm not aware of a high-end online bachelors degree.

alistairSH 6y ago
Harvard Extension Campus offers quite a few. While not viewed as favorably as an on-campus degree from Harvard, still valued higher than an on-campus degree from many other institutions. https://www.extension.harvard.edu/academics/bachelor-liberal-arts-degree https://www.extension.harvard.edu/academics/bachelor-liberal...
- albntomat0 6y ago
  Nifty, I wasn't aware that existed. Still, there really isn't a viable online bachelors for the average 18 year old college applicant who is looking for a credential to use in the job market.
  - alistairSH 6y ago
    FWIW, HES doesn't require admissions - a prospective student simple registers for the first few required classes in the program. If successful in those, they continue on in the full program. I believe one of the courses is a research & writing survey that is reportedly quite difficult to pass. So, still not an option for an average 18 year old. But, potentially a fantastic option for a smart 18 year old who wouldn't otherwise be able to attend Harvard (or other elite institution).
- KingMachiavelli 6y ago
  Interesting, it's a BS in liberal arts but offers CS as a field of study? Seems odd.
  - abdullahkhalids 6y ago
    A liberal arts degree still gives you the skills to pursue a specific industry for jobs. It is just that your education is much broader than a typical university. So 12-15 CS courses, instead of 20-25 CS
  - alistairSH 6y ago
    From my limited research (considering the Masters of Liberal Arts program), the difference is the mix of required courses and capstone/thesis work. The number of credits and core subject courses are similar.
pbhjpbhj 6y ago
In UK the Open University is highly valued, and only (?) offers remote learning (and has for decades). Indeed it's recommended to put BA(Open), or whatever, by the uni as it's considered by some more valuable than an attendance based degree. This mirrors the writing of Oxon., for example, for an Oxford degree. It's surely about perception of employers.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > Indeed it's recommended to put BA(Open), or whatever, by the uni as it's considered by some more valuable than an attendance based degree. All unis do this BA (Cantab), BA (Bristoliensis), BA (Exon), etc. It’s nothing special for OU. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_in_the_United_Kingdom#Post-nominal_abbreviations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_in_the_United_K...
  - pbhjpbhj 6y ago
    Have you seen those in the wild? I've only ever seen Oxon.

alistairSH 6y ago

Harvard Extension Campus offers quite a few. While not viewed as favorably as an on-campus degree from Harvard, still valued higher than an on-campus degree from many other institutions. https://www.extension.harvard.edu/academics/bachelor-liberal-arts-degree https://www.extension.harvard.edu/academics/bachelor-liberal...

albntomat0 6y ago
Nifty, I wasn't aware that existed. Still, there really isn't a viable online bachelors for the average 18 year old college applicant who is looking for a credential to use in the job market.
- alistairSH 6y ago
  FWIW, HES doesn't require admissions - a prospective student simple registers for the first few required classes in the program. If successful in those, they continue on in the full program. I believe one of the courses is a research & writing survey that is reportedly quite difficult to pass. So, still not an option for an average 18 year old. But, potentially a fantastic option for a smart 18 year old who wouldn't otherwise be able to attend Harvard (or other elite institution).
KingMachiavelli 6y ago
Interesting, it's a BS in liberal arts but offers CS as a field of study? Seems odd.
- abdullahkhalids 6y ago
  A liberal arts degree still gives you the skills to pursue a specific industry for jobs. It is just that your education is much broader than a typical university. So 12-15 CS courses, instead of 20-25 CS
- alistairSH 6y ago
  From my limited research (considering the Masters of Liberal Arts program), the difference is the mix of required courses and capstone/thesis work. The number of credits and core subject courses are similar.

pbhjpbhj 6y ago

In UK the Open University is highly valued, and only (?) offers remote learning (and has for decades). Indeed it's recommended to put BA(Open), or whatever, by the uni as it's considered by some more valuable than an attendance based degree. This mirrors the writing of Oxon., for example, for an Oxford degree. It's surely about perception of employers.

chrisseaton 6y ago
> Indeed it's recommended to put BA(Open), or whatever, by the uni as it's considered by some more valuable than an attendance based degree. All unis do this BA (Cantab), BA (Bristoliensis), BA (Exon), etc. It’s nothing special for OU. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_in_the_United_Kingdom#Post-nominal_abbreviations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_in_the_United_K...
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  Have you seen those in the wild? I've only ever seen Oxon.