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Twitter is now that public square.

by partyboat1586 6y ago

brendoelfrendo 6y ago
Then the solution is to nationalize Twitter and enforce the first amendment there, not this.
- Izkata 6y ago
  > U.S. District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald in Manhattan ruled on May 23 [2018] that comments on the president’s account, and those of other government officials, were public forums and that blocking Twitter Inc users for their views violated their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-unblocks-more-twitter-users-after-u-s-court-ruling-idUSKCN1LE08Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-u...
  - brendoelfrendo 6y ago
    What's your point? That's a ruling against Trump, not against Twitter. The President can't arbitrarily block access to his communications.
SauciestGNU 6y ago
Not in any way that matters, and certainly not in the legal sense. In a legal sense, Twitter is your neighbor's backyard, and your neighbor is telling you to stop lying about sleeping with his wife or get the fuck out of his yard.
- partyboat1586 6y ago
  Twitter is so much bigger than your neighbours back yard. Debates between most major public figures don't happen in your neighbours back yard. And it doesn't matter what the law is now, think about what it represents to people first then the future law comes from that.
- Izkata 6y ago
  In the legal sense, replies to tweets of government officials have indeed been public square since 2018. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-unblocks-more-twitter-users-after-u-s-court-ruling-idUSKCN1LE08Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-u...
  - fzeroracer 6y ago
    As a member of the government, Trump cannot selectively choose who can or cannot view things that are the public duty of his office. He can't ban people from watching White House videos on Youtube and he can't block people on his public facing government account. This does not mean that Twitter or Youtube cannot ban them from their site or control what they do on their site. It means the government cannot selectively enforce who can or cannot view their content. If Trump came over to your home and asked to hold a SOTU, you have the right to turn him away. However if you agreed to let him hold a SOTU and he decides to turn away your friends because he doesn't like them, that would be against the law.

Twitter is now that public square.

brendoelfrendo 6y ago

Then the solution is to nationalize Twitter and enforce the first amendment there, not this.

Izkata 6y ago
> U.S. District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald in Manhattan ruled on May 23 [2018] that comments on the president’s account, and those of other government officials, were public forums and that blocking Twitter Inc users for their views violated their right to free speech under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-unblocks-more-twitter-users-after-u-s-court-ruling-idUSKCN1LE08Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-u...
- brendoelfrendo 6y ago
  What's your point? That's a ruling against Trump, not against Twitter. The President can't arbitrarily block access to his communications.

SauciestGNU 6y ago

Not in any way that matters, and certainly not in the legal sense. In a legal sense, Twitter is your neighbor's backyard, and your neighbor is telling you to stop lying about sleeping with his wife or get the fuck out of his yard.

partyboat1586 6y ago
Twitter is so much bigger than your neighbours back yard. Debates between most major public figures don't happen in your neighbours back yard. And it doesn't matter what the law is now, think about what it represents to people first then the future law comes from that.
Izkata 6y ago
In the legal sense, replies to tweets of government officials have indeed been public square since 2018. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-unblocks-more-twitter-users-after-u-s-court-ruling-idUSKCN1LE08Q https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-twitter/trump-u...
- fzeroracer 6y ago
  As a member of the government, Trump cannot selectively choose who can or cannot view things that are the public duty of his office. He can't ban people from watching White House videos on Youtube and he can't block people on his public facing government account. This does not mean that Twitter or Youtube cannot ban them from their site or control what they do on their site. It means the government cannot selectively enforce who can or cannot view their content. If Trump came over to your home and asked to hold a SOTU, you have the right to turn him away. However if you agreed to let him hold a SOTU and he decides to turn away your friends because he doesn't like them, that would be against the law.