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Commercial license is 50$ per year. Not even 5 bucks per month. I do not think this qualifies as "expensive", especially if you intend to use it for work relate

Commercial license is 50$ per year. Not even 5 bucks per month. I do not think this qualifies as "expensive", especially if you intend to use it for work related stuff

fao_ 6y ago
I mean, if you're in a software job, sure. But in total for a year, it's almost 1 month worth of rent in the city that's close to me.
- Waterluvian 6y ago
  Rent is $50 a month?
  - fao_ 6y ago
    whups! corrected
    - Aeolun 6y ago
      I don’t think the message really changed?
      - fao_ 6y ago
        "But in total for a year," In other words, a year's worth of this (which is based off the idea that you would actually be using it. If you plan to use something you don't just stop using it after a month), is an entire month's worth of rent that you could pay instead. Or maybe a different perspective, a month's worth of this is the same price as a month's worth of groceries.
        Waterluvian 6y ago
        The service is $50 per year. unless I’m also confused here.
        fao_ 6y ago
        When I read it it was 50$ per month, so many they have changed their pricing? Or I could have misread? fake edit: yes, they reviewed their pricing since I read it. the "sync" tier used to be at the 50$ mark.
colinjoy 6y ago
If you are going to use it as a knowledge base, you are probably looking at a few years of use. Currently the closest match to this software I have installed is Quiver. Let’s compare costs over a period of 5 years: Quiver: $9.99 Obsidian: $250.00 That may not be a lot of money to you personally, but it fits my mental model of “expensive” pretty well.
- quickthrower2 6y ago
  Does Quiver solve the same problems? Sorry it's a hard word to Google so not sure I found the app you are thinking of. 50/y is definitely a think about it and review yearly when budgeting type of expense as a personal expense, because all those recurring expenses add up! But as a business expense, if a $100k/y dev asks for a $50 tool I think their boss will say "why you waste my time asking, just get it and we'll pay for it".
  - pedoh 6y ago
    I suspect OP is talking about this: https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki (there's a link to an iOS app there)
  - colinjoy 6y ago
    I would say Quiver targets the same problem space. There’s some overlap and there are some healthy differences. I didn’t mention it to propose it as an alternative, but to illustrate that “expensive” is not just about absolute cost. https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki
  - ncallaway 6y ago
    My biggest problem is the license is pretty strict, so I don't really have room to try it and see if it works for me. 90% of my notes are work related, so I don't really generate enough "hobby" notes to stress the tool and see if I want to use it. I'm not going to drop $50 to try and it and see if I like it. I'm also not going to violate their license to see if I like it. I wish there were a trial for the commercial version. 14 or 30 days would be really useful as an evaluation period. Without being able to try it before I buy, though, it ends up being a pass from me even though $50 isn't _that_ expensive.
prepend 6y ago
I disagree. $50 for note taking app only is expensive compared to something like Google Docs which does much more functionality and includes cloud storage. The product is applicable to anyone who needs a knowledge base so it’s $50/employee and that adds up quickly. While the developer is free to charge whatever they like, I don’t like the trend of these products priced based on people thinking $50 isn’t that much and that spiraling into what should be a one time fee to every piece of software being $50/year forever. This reminds me of the 4 hour workweek where there’s a plan to create recurring streams of revenue for little to no work. I think the amount of time put into this product doesn’t warrant that price. Even though I think it’s a really neat product.
- ubercow13 6y ago
  Yeah. Photoshop is only $10/mo. Many IntelliJ IDEs are $12.50/mo and you get to keep them if you stop paying. Both of those are core revenue drivers for many of the employees who use them. $4/mo is quite expensive for a markdown editor IMO.
  - prepend 6y ago
    I think it’s cool that the markdown still works when I stop paying. Imagine if the author of grep charged $5/month for the utility.

Commercial license is 50$ per year. Not even 5 bucks per month. I do not think this qualifies as "expensive", especially if you intend to use it for work related stuff

fao_ 6y ago

I mean, if you're in a software job, sure. But in total for a year, it's almost 1 month worth of rent in the city that's close to me.

Waterluvian 6y ago
Rent is $50 a month?
- fao_ 6y ago
  whups! corrected
  - Aeolun 6y ago
    I don’t think the message really changed?
    - fao_ 6y ago
      "But in total for a year," In other words, a year's worth of this (which is based off the idea that you would actually be using it. If you plan to use something you don't just stop using it after a month), is an entire month's worth of rent that you could pay instead. Or maybe a different perspective, a month's worth of this is the same price as a month's worth of groceries.
      - Waterluvian 6y ago
        The service is $50 per year. unless I’m also confused here.
        fao_ 6y ago
        When I read it it was 50$ per month, so many they have changed their pricing? Or I could have misread? fake edit: yes, they reviewed their pricing since I read it. the "sync" tier used to be at the 50$ mark.

colinjoy 6y ago

If you are going to use it as a knowledge base, you are probably looking at a few years of use. Currently the closest match to this software I have installed is Quiver. Let’s compare costs over a period of 5 years: Quiver: $9.99 Obsidian: $250.00 That may not be a lot of money to you personally, but it fits my mental model of “expensive” pretty well.

quickthrower2 6y ago
Does Quiver solve the same problems? Sorry it's a hard word to Google so not sure I found the app you are thinking of. 50/y is definitely a think about it and review yearly when budgeting type of expense as a personal expense, because all those recurring expenses add up! But as a business expense, if a $100k/y dev asks for a $50 tool I think their boss will say "why you waste my time asking, just get it and we'll pay for it".
- pedoh 6y ago
  I suspect OP is talking about this: https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki (there's a link to an iOS app there)
- colinjoy 6y ago
  I would say Quiver targets the same problem space. There’s some overlap and there are some healthy differences. I didn’t mention it to propose it as an alternative, but to illustrate that “expensive” is not just about absolute cost. https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/wiki
- ncallaway 6y ago
  My biggest problem is the license is pretty strict, so I don't really have room to try it and see if it works for me. 90% of my notes are work related, so I don't really generate enough "hobby" notes to stress the tool and see if I want to use it. I'm not going to drop $50 to try and it and see if I like it. I'm also not going to violate their license to see if I like it. I wish there were a trial for the commercial version. 14 or 30 days would be really useful as an evaluation period. Without being able to try it before I buy, though, it ends up being a pass from me even though $50 isn't _that_ expensive.

prepend 6y ago

I disagree. $50 for note taking app only is expensive compared to something like Google Docs which does much more functionality and includes cloud storage. The product is applicable to anyone who needs a knowledge base so it’s $50/employee and that adds up quickly. While the developer is free to charge whatever they like, I don’t like the trend of these products priced based on people thinking $50 isn’t that much and that spiraling into what should be a one time fee to every piece of software being $50/year forever. This reminds me of the 4 hour workweek where there’s a plan to create recurring streams of revenue for little to no work. I think the amount of time put into this product doesn’t warrant that price. Even though I think it’s a really neat product.

ubercow13 6y ago
Yeah. Photoshop is only $10/mo. Many IntelliJ IDEs are $12.50/mo and you get to keep them if you stop paying. Both of those are core revenue drivers for many of the employees who use them. $4/mo is quite expensive for a markdown editor IMO.
- prepend 6y ago
  I think it’s cool that the markdown still works when I stop paying. Imagine if the author of grep charged $5/month for the utility.