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AMP results are annoying enough on mobile that I switched my default search engine to duckduckgo on my phone.
by psanford 6y ago
AMP results are annoying enough on mobile that I switched my default search engine to duckduckgo on my phone.
- epistasis 6y agoI did the same, and am slowly switching over other computers too as I remember. The quality of search result is high enough that I can't tell the difference. Search engines are too important to leave in the hands of one company. Especially a company that, though it was founded as a search engine company, has that search engine as only a tiny part of its people-tracking machine.
- gravitas 6y agoDDG has the ability to save your entire configuration setup ("open links in new window", etc.) in a common URL string - after getting it set up the way you like, go here: https://start.duckduckgo.com/settings https://start.duckduckgo.com/settings On the right is "Show Bookmarklet & Settings", click to open and you'll see your URL to bookmark. As I use standard Firefox/Chrome sync for bookmarks, I just had to save it once in either browser and it shows up on all devices exactly how I like/want.
- ashtonkem 6y agoFor reportedly being there to accelerate the web, AMP pages remain consistently slower and less reliable than the original websites for me.
- omnifischer 6y agoexamples? Every site in Germany is 10 X bigger in normal browsing compared to AMP.
- ashtonkem 6y agoThe majority of the times I open an AMP url, it loads the visible content, but I can’t scroll below the fold at all.
- pmarreck 6y agoWould like to add a little context to this for anyone who isn't familiar- For all the intelligence and engineering prowess of Germans, their Internet infrastructure is severely lacking. Most places I'm aware of have poor connections to begin with but also still meter every kilobyte that you download, so Germans are really far more conscious of payload sizes than most Westerners are, where internet service is just a flat fee. It's really strange when so-called "second-world" countries like Bulgaria and Romania have far better Internet than Germany
- catalogia 6y agoAMP might be faster if you browse the net with javascript enabled by default and with no content blockers enabled. But if you don't do those things, AMP is a clear net-negative.
- mcv 6y agoYeah, but Google doesn't want you to do that. You're here to watch ads, peon.
- Mirioron 6y agoThe AMP site is unusable far more often than not. My phone has had a 100 Mbps connection for years, yet opening webpages is slow because I need to manually mess with the page so that I can get a working webpage. I'll take +250 ms load time over fiddling with the page for 5 seconds and then having to reload it anyway.
- watwut 6y agoWith amp I basically do "find the page, edit url to remove amp, load again" dance. It is definitely not faster.
- lonelappde 6y agoWhy edit url? For non images, the original URL is in the page content.
- AnssiH 6y agoIf I open a page from the Google Now feed on my phone, I get sent to an AMP page that does not have the original URL in content. Example: https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wccftech.com/intels-boxed-cpu-cooler-facelift-10th-gen-comet-lake-processors/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwccftech.com%2Fintels-boxed-cpu-cooler-facelift-10th-gen-comet-lake-processors%2F https://wccftech-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/wccftech.com/int...
- coldpie 6y agoThere's an extension for this. Works on mobile (at least until Mozilla kills extensions on their mobile app) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amp2html/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amp2html/
- ojosilva 6y agoOMG! Why would Mozilla kill extensions on mobile (android)? It would make mobile unusable for me. In fact that's the reason I barely browse the internet on my iPad: Firefox never had add ons on iOS due to Apple restrictions. I hope that's just FUD!
- Kaze404 6y agoIt's more nuanced than that. Iirc they're rewriting the way extensions are handled internally on Firefox for Android, making only certain extensions available initially. Feel free to look more into it for more precise information, this is all public.
- snazz 6y agoI'm still against AMP on a conceptual ground, but it is so much faster and more reliable than traditional page loading on my phone. Pages can't have megabytes of JavaScript and huge images. It's served by Google's fast CDN instead of some far-away server.
- iagovar 6y agoUse firefox or brave. I solved this problem. I'm only waiting for a proper alternative to Android, I'm so tired of google and its swallow way of doing things...
- snazz 6y agoI do use an adblocker on my iPhone.
- allendoerfer 6y agoI have thought the same for year and finally just switched to iOS.
- iagovar 6y agoYeah, but then you have another vendor lock in, not to mention that apple products are expensive for me, I don't have an US salary.
- snazz 6y agoI just had a discussion with someone on Lobsters about the actual cost of a lower-end iPhone versus a similarly-priced Android phone and the iPhone appeared cheaper: > The Pixel 4 is $799 and the Pixel 3a is $399 (although it may be on sale right now depending on your region). The iPhone 11 is $699 and the iPhone SE (2nd generation) is $399. Both provide additional discounts if you trade in your current phone (and since iPhones have a lot more resale value, you can get much more for your trade-in). Google provides three years of security updates, starting from the time that the phone is released. Apple provides four or five years of security (and feature!) updates. You can get the same amount of usable life out of a brand-new Pixel as a one- or two-year-old iPhone, which puts the per-year price strongly in Apple's favor. Other Android devices, like those made by Samsung, are usually even more expensive and have fewer years of guaranteed security updates. Apple even backports extremely high-severity security patches and major bug fixes (like the GPS rollover patch) to devices that would be considered "obsolete" by Android manufacturers. So the iPhone might be a higher upfront cost, but it's a significantly lower per-year cost, especially if you get last year's model or the SE.
- Mirioron 6y agoAMP is the number one reason for my usage of "load the desktop site" toggle on my phone.
- m-p-3 6y agoI did the same, I don't plan on going back to Google as my search engine.
- Eric_WVGG 6y agoSame. And it's been maddening, because while DDG is fine and sometimes better for desktop work (code questions, stack overflow, professional stuff), I find it far inferior for mobile stuff (getting around, local recommendations, shopping, etc.). But if that's what it takes to get the real web, so be it.
- andromeduck 6y agoIdk I really appreciate the lack of cookie popups and subscribe to this and that popups that can occupy almost the entire screen bedoree being dismissed on mobile.
- pbhjpbhj 6y agoSo Google don't do tracking on Amp pages, or they're breaking EU law?
- jdofaz 6y agoDitto, for all the good reasons to use DDG, AMP is what retrained me into searching DDG first. Each time I landed on an AMP page it was a reminder to change my default search engine on that browser/device.
- psanford 6y agoThere's definitely a psychological element to it. I find I just don't trust search results with pictures next to them as much as I trust plaintext search results. The years and years of simple google results has trained me to be suspicious of noisier search result pages.