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The monopoly is due to threshold of creators being on youtube. A single channel leaving would make no difference. I'd love to see a movement away from youtube,

The monopoly is due to threshold of creators being on youtube. A single channel leaving would make no difference. I'd love to see a movement away from youtube, but that would require a movement with serous organization, which creators mostly aren't capable of doing.

colechristensen 6y ago
Cue the Simpsons clip "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". If one is not willing, capable, or even interested in trying to solve problems they help create, as an individual or a group, I have very little interest in sympathy for their difficulty.
- colinmhayes 6y ago
  How is writing blog posts not trying something? Seems pretty clear to me that content creators are trying to create outrage to force youtube's hand, which seems to me to be the only successful strategy other than getting laws changed.
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    If the only thing you are willing to do about your problems is publicly complain about them implicitly hoping for an angry mob in response is... quite nearly the least you could do. I think I have expended the amount that I care about the issue.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  People have tried it, that's how we know it doesn't work. Refusing your pet idea isn't a refusal to do anything at all.
flukus 6y ago
> I'd love to see a movement away from youtube I have seen that, particularly in history channel circles were the content get demonetized for things like saying Hitler, many of them band together and publish to youtube last or not at all and promote these other channels in their videos. I don't know if any of them will be successful, but staying on youtube simply isn't an option for them either. I think if/when youtube falters it will be death be a thousand cuts, it won't be a single movement with organization and it won't be to something else as centralized.
marcus_holmes 6y ago
This is exactly the same conversation that HN is having about blogging/social media. Be the change we want to see in the world. Stop posting on YT/FB/IG/wherever, and create your own site, attract your own audience. I'll come watch you/read it/listen to it. I'm sick of FB/YT/IG/wherever.

colechristensen 6y ago

Cue the Simpsons clip "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas". If one is not willing, capable, or even interested in trying to solve problems they help create, as an individual or a group, I have very little interest in sympathy for their difficulty.

colinmhayes 6y ago
How is writing blog posts not trying something? Seems pretty clear to me that content creators are trying to create outrage to force youtube's hand, which seems to me to be the only successful strategy other than getting laws changed.
- colechristensen 6y ago
  If the only thing you are willing to do about your problems is publicly complain about them implicitly hoping for an angry mob in response is... quite nearly the least you could do. I think I have expended the amount that I care about the issue.
Dylan16807 6y ago
People have tried it, that's how we know it doesn't work. Refusing your pet idea isn't a refusal to do anything at all.

flukus 6y ago

> I'd love to see a movement away from youtube I have seen that, particularly in history channel circles were the content get demonetized for things like saying Hitler, many of them band together and publish to youtube last or not at all and promote these other channels in their videos. I don't know if any of them will be successful, but staying on youtube simply isn't an option for them either. I think if/when youtube falters it will be death be a thousand cuts, it won't be a single movement with organization and it won't be to something else as centralized.

marcus_holmes 6y ago

This is exactly the same conversation that HN is having about blogging/social media. Be the change we want to see in the world. Stop posting on YT/FB/IG/wherever, and create your own site, attract your own audience. I'll come watch you/read it/listen to it. I'm sick of FB/YT/IG/wherever.