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How a lazy bitch like me learned to be productive
- epinards 6y agoI recently got my life together and wanted to share what's been working for me.
- 10xRich 6y agoI definitely relate to this. Sometimes the anxiety of doing something important makes that something seem much harder than it actually is. Lowering the bar helps ease that anxiety. I've picked up a whole flossing habit just by starting with "at least one tooth and then you can stop if you'd like" ha
- epinards 6y agoI did the same thing with flossing! Almost at one year streak now. Glad you've found something that works for you too. :)
- troughway 6y agoRelated to this is Scott Adams' Goals vs. Systems - https://www.scottadamssays.com/2013/11/18/goals-vs-systems/ https://www.scottadamssays.com/2013/11/18/goals-vs-systems/
- Reedx 6y agoAlso Atomic Habits[1], based in part on Adams' system[2]. 1. https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0735211299 https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0... 2. https://jamesclear.com/goals-systems https://jamesclear.com/goals-systems
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- ryanolsonx 6y agoAlso, Sea Change from the author of Zen Habits blog: https://seachange.zenhabits.net/ https://seachange.zenhabits.net/
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- ambivalents 6y agoThanks for sharing. Not going to lie it was the title of your post that got me to click. But the content was solid too.
- clairity 6y agoa little datapoint that she might not be a bad growth marketer then.
- colecut 6y ago"A couple of months ago, I was a train wreck that ate too many cinnamon rolls and watched Netflix while laying in sweats on the couch. Yesterday, I ran 3 miles, did 40 minutes of yoga, meditated, ate steel cut oats with berries for breakfast, then turned on my favorite business podcast while I showered, all before work started." Kudos to your success. Please do not get complacent. I had a similar brief transformation at the start of this year and felt on top of the world for a couple months. Then I got Achilles tendonitis which made even walking extremely painful for about 6 weeks. My son's mom died after a long fight with cancer. That same week my current girlfriend was diagnosed with cancer. And then quarantine happened. I let these events allow me to regress back to worse off than I was when I started. And it all felt so easy at first
- mason55 6y agoYeah it's easy to stick with this kind of thing for a few months when everything is going well. The challenge is keeping it up beyond the few months when the novelty wears off, life gets in the way, and it becomes difficult. I personally find that these kinds of things keep my interest for about about three months so I have to find ways to make progress towards goals while also changing whatever I'm doing enough to continue to hold my interesting. Examples might include changing my workout routine in a way that is different enough to hold my interest but similar enough to continue making progress. Or switch to learning a different style of guitar. Stuff like that. Having defined goals to begin with helps a lot.
- epinards 6y agoYes I agree. I call it the 'dip of doom' that happens at the 4-6 month mark. If you push through it, you're golden, but so many people give up.
- clarry 6y agoSimilar story. I made good progress with running, until I wrecked my knee such that getting from bedroom to bathroom was difficult and painful and could only be done with support from walls. I couldn't leave home at all for a few days, and the next couple weeks after that were very slow limpy walks. It took weeks to heal. When it was finally ok, I started running carefully again and.. a week or two into it, wrecked my other knee. FML. This one wasn't so painful but took even longer to heal (pain would resurface every time I do as little as walk to the grocery store and back) and now I don't know if I dare ever run again. And it looks like I've lost dorsiflexion in the other foot. Months of progress wiped just like that, and now I'm worse off than before I started running regularly.
- paulcole 6y agoThis title is so inappropriate. Is it any wonder so many people have an issue with toxicity in the tech community?
- daeken 6y agoI'm not going to argue that it's appropriate (I think it is, but that's incredibly subjective), but how is it in any way toxic? She's owning the term in a way that empowers her; that's literally the opposite of toxicity.
- downerending 6y agoOr perhaps gatekeeping and shaming vocabulary instead of reading for intent is the real toxicity?
- Reedx 6y agoIs it any wonder so many have issues when they turn every little thing into an issue? You can choose to be offended by this or choose to view it with a sense of humor. That choice is up to you.
- gdsdfe 6y agobut she choose the title ... are you saying we should tell her what to write or what to call herself or what she should think?
- gowld 6y agoThinking is free, as is blogging. The line should be drawn at what is pushed into the HN newsfeed and up upvoted, which we have a shared responsibility to maintain for each other.
- gdsdfe 6y agoI don't think anyone should be policing anything ... except maybe some links that promote violence, abuse etc.
- kosmischemusik 6y agoI've been trying to build habits forever. The problem is I try to do too many things at once - exercise, get more sleep, read more, write, study. As much as I know that habits need to be stacked, I just can't get myself to be patient and do one thing at a time.
- danenania 6y agoI think exercise probably gives the most bang for your buck, since it directly improves sleep and mood.
- oldsklgdfth 6y agoRecently started running again and I have to consistently remind myself to take it easy and not overdo it. 3 weeks ago getting through 20 mins was a struggle. Now after 20 mins I feel like I can do 20 more. That's a good way to get hurt. Consistency is like compound interest. If you get 15-20 mins of easy-paced exercise in 6 times a week (or even daily), you will get more exercise done than if you do 2-3 hard workouts. In addition, you reduce the chances of injury.
- snazz 6y agoThis seems to be true of learning as well. It's strange how easy it is (for me at least) to break the cycle of doing something every day--I tell myself that it's okay to skip today so long as I make it up tomorrow (or on the weekend or whatever). At that point it's easy to keep putting it off just through inertia.
- oldsklgdfth 6y agoI learned this over and over again in college. Cramming is never as effective as smaller chucks of daily studying. Learning a new mathematical technique or programming paradigm is similar to exercise. Your brain needs to develop some "muscle" memory for a new way of thinking to stick.
- epinards 6y agoI used to do the same thing. I'm impatient and I want to see results asap, which makes it really hard to slow down and take it one thing at a time. The thing I've learned lately is that with habits, going faster in the short term slows you WAY down in the long run. Counterintuitive, but 100% true.
- x0i 6y agodont be a bitch bro
- jchook 6y agoSome books that helped me: - The War of Art by Steven Pressfield - Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins - Indistractable by Nir Eyal - Mastery by Robert Greene
- cpursley 6y agoSee also: - The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business
- mrwnmonm 6y agoWhy "Can't Hurt Me" is so popular?
- jchook 6y agoSay whatever bad you want about this book, I probably agree. Regardless of its obvious flaws, it changed my life for the better. I first started listening to the audio in the gym. I did 2x as many rows as my previous set just because of what Goggins had to say at that moment. I did the impossible. He gave me 2x the endurance with words alone. At times it gave me those, “people and the world are so god damn beautiful” teary eyes
- mrwnmonm 6y agoNo, I didn't read it but I wanted to know what all the fuzz is about. Recently I had a collection on my kindle called "Regrets" for the books that I bought and found out it was trash, so I am a little skeptical about new books.
- somestag 6y agoThere are strategies that tend to have better success rates than others—and to be clear, I think this blog post gives good advice—but I'm suspicious of any "successful" strategy that is merely the most recent in a long line of attempts. I think people change slowly—much more slowly than we usually assume. Every time you try something to fix your life and you fail, you actually make a little bit of progress on yourself, just not enough to switch your behavior into something recognizably better. When you try a new strategy and succeed, there is a strong chance that you would not have been successful had you not made all of that incremental progress on yourself from all your failures. That's why it's important to never give up on yourself. I've had "breakthroughs" that were basically just me trying the same thing I tried (and failed at) years earlier. The difference was that I'd gotten stronger in subtle ways over that time. Then, 6 months later, I'm back to my old habits. This is depressing, but when I remember that this is the first time I was able to stick with something for months instead of weeks, I realize I've actually made progress on myself. Even though this isn't strictly about productivity, I think the best lesson from OP is that things get easier as you practice them. This seems obvious, but when we talk about building skills, we often frame it as us rising to the challenge. I.e., there's this very hard thing we want to do, and we need to become stronger to be able to do it. This isn't wrong per se, but I think it's bad for motivation because it frames progress as doing as doing increasingly more difficult things. Instead of thinking about getting better, I think it's more helpful to frame progress as things becoming easier. No matter how weak you feel you are, the things you find difficult in life will become easier as you work on them.
- WalterBright 6y agoYou're quite right. It's amazing what one can accomplish if one lets oneself be satisfied what incremental progress, no matter how small. For example, I dislike doing pullups. Many times over the decades, I embarked on a program of daily doing as many pullups as I could. I failed because it just took too much willpower. I finally hit on a solution. I started with doing 3 pullups a day. 3 pullups are easy. It didn't take much willpower at all. After a few months, I "graduated" to 4, which then was just as easy. After several years, I am now up to 10, which is easy, and something I had kept failing at before. You might think "why wait several years", but my goal with this is long term, so that doesn't bother me.
- seebetter 6y agoSpeaking of lazy, if your brain is lazy like mine it might interpret this sentence differently: “I only make one or two habits each month.” The words above it combined with the expectation that I thought it said “baby habits” made my brain flash “I only hit 1 or 2 babies each month.” Hopefully I’m not the only person that experienced this.
- epinards 6y agoYikes, thanks for pointing that out!
- redmattred 6y agoI know it's meant to be a punchy title to entice people to read (mission accomplished), but just be careful with the language you use and internalize about yourself. From skimming some of your other articles you seem anything but lazy. Glad to see there is some acknowledgement in your article about setting realistic goals and putting some limits on what you consider "enough".
- mshekow 6y agoThe advice to start really slowly is good. It also makes sense to have a kind of plan, on paper, to commit to, and to remind yourself, holding yourself accountable. Blogging about that is not a bad idea, either. What I did wrong (and sometimes still do) is that you cannot just add new things without removing other things. It helps to be fully aware of what kinds of things you'll have to remove from your life. What is the habit you're replacing(!) with a new habit? Food for thought ... ;).
- DecayingOrganic 6y agoIf you’d like to troubleshoot why you are unable to perform certain actions/behaviors based on a framework, I highly recommend reading about Fogg Behavior Model [0]. It’s a simple yet powerful framework that you can use to gain a better understanding of your behaviors. [0]: https://captology.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Behavior-Model-for-Persuasive-Design.pdf https://captology.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Be...
- mellosouls 6y agoIt isn't mentioned in the blog as far as I can see but the author appears to be advocating "micro habits" (also known under similar and other monikers, small habits, BJ Fogg's method etc). The idea being you pick up a new habit using similar techniques to pomodoro, a little bit at a time. Example of similar reflections: https://hackernoon.com/micro-habits-changed-my-life-47f572bfc153 https://hackernoon.com/micro-habits-changed-my-life-47f572bf... One thing I did find useful in this particular essay (the OP) was a reminder of the relative difficulty of spending X amount of time doing something new compared to the same amount of time doing something second nature - which is magnified further according to how boring, painful, or just plain irritating it is.
- papeda 6y agoI saw similar advice from a very different source a couple of months ago. It was a book about exercise with the following advice for stretching: don't go until hurts, but go until it's slightly uncomfortable, then try to relax there, then repeat. Maybe a little trite, but I feel that advice is pretty widely applicable.
- quietthrow 6y agoSerious question / Genuinely Curious Why would the author call herself a bitch? why implicitly promote objectification of women by explicitly being ok with (crazy in my opinion) the personal choice of objectifying onseself? I understand that she is a growth hacker and her thinking may be perhaps a title like this Only to get clicks. If so, even then, it still seems conflicting and contradicting to a personal beliefs of herself not being an object. On the other hand if she like to objectify herself why would somebody sane do thst ?
- gowld 6y agoJust trying to be cool and edgy for attention by using immature, inflammatory language.
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- WalterBright 6y agoBecause when you own an epithet, it loses all its power over you.
- daeken 6y ago> why implicitly promote objectification of women by explicitly being ok with (crazy in my opinion) the personal choice of objectifying onseself? A woman choosing to own the term "bitch" doesn't promote objectification of women any more than me owning the term "queer" promotes homophobia/transphobia. Bigots will always find an excuse to be bigots; they don't need a woman to give them that excuse. Additionally, your use of "crazy" and "sane" in this context is exactly the type of tone policing that hurts women (not to mention very directly propping up the stigma against those suffering from mental illness). You're not helping.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoApocryphal? Reads like a self-help magazine article. Sure this could work, for some. But nothing about falling off the wagon (and how to get back on), padding/rounding effort until its all padding and no effort, folks tearing you down because they can't imagine succeeding and wanting you to fail too, and so on. Life isn't "This one thing that changed my life".
- adamrt 6y ago> Sure this could work, for some. But nothing about Yeah its a blog post not a doctors orders. Someone shared some positivity, on their personal blog, with a clearly playful title. If it helps "some" people then its a success. Everything doesn't have to work for everyone. Lighten up
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoSure, its a puff piece. Like I said. Got any ideas about really improving your life to share? Addressing anything I brought up? Something to move the conversation forward? Anything that could help a person like me, who could really use help on this.
- sg47 6y agoIt was a blog post. Not a comment to something you brought up.
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoYes, but the response to my comment was simply negativity as well. No attempt to contribute. That was my polite way of saying that.
- adamrt 6y agoI was trying to put it in perspective for you since your reaction seemed very out of left field.
- atemerev 6y agoEvery productivity advice: "make routines". ADHD sufferers: uuuugh...
- rajsripathi 6y agoOr people with bipolar disorder or health issues. As someone who had to get my thyroid removed due to cancer last year, it's been a challenge to feel the same everyday. Still working hard at routines - morning yoga, breathing exercise, etc
- scrumper 6y agoHa! Well that was a pure treat - instantly grabby title leading to a concise, witty, well-constructed article, containing good advice. Loved it for all those reasons.
- epinards 6y agoThank you!!
- nate 6y agoI hate running. I'd do it because it seems like the easiest way for me to get a cardio workout to hopefully live longer. But I couldn't get past some kind of 4 mile barrier in my head. It was just too boring. But I started pushing myself like 10 more feet every run. Why not just go to that next bench, that next tree I told myself. I'd make sure to even stop myself if I was feeling good. "Nope, don't go any further or I'll have to go even further tomorrow." It took a long time obviously, and eventually I started enjoying the runs more and more. The 10 foot limit got pushed longer. But I finally got to 11 miles and began to understand what everyone is enjoying in these long runs. Now I LOVE 11 mile runs and am sad I've had to stop doing them (covid related time yada yada). And now I apply this pattern to a lot of things. I hate waking up early. Well... after months of inching up the wake up alarm I'm now a consistent 5:30am riser and dig the early quiet morning productivity. This small, continuous, incremental that you barely notice stuff is a powerful weapon.
- abi 6y agoJames Clear's book, Atomic Habits (https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0735211299 https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0...), is exactly about this. Really small, continuous improvements snowball into something amazing over time. I got a lot of value out of reading it, so thought I'd mention it here.
- 01100011 6y agoFor me it took having a friend. We started out as two fat guys, bringing beer on our lazy hikes. Slowly we started competing with each other, trying not to let the other one get too far ahead. Over 2 years we went from lazy fat guys to pulling 12-25 mile hikes and running as much as we could tolerate. I ended up in a shape I never would have imagined, being overweight and un-athletic most of my life.
- noneeeed 6y agoI think this is why the Couch-to-5k plan seems to work pretty well for a lot of people at the early stages. Just that gradual increase in distance/time each time you run, and a couple of months later you're running for 30 minutes/ 5km non-stop and it feels pretty great. I then worked from there all the way up to doing a 10km every weekend and the feeling was amazing. Unfortunately, after we had kids I got out of the habit, put a load of weight back on and am now back at the beginning. On the plus side, I know what I'm capable of if I take it slow and steady, and I have two more reasons to look after my health. I also read The Oatmeal's "The Terrible and Wonderful Reasons I Run Long Distances", which really just described my relationship with running perfectly. For me, the boredom is also aleviated by copious stacks of podcasts. It's kind of my mental relaxation time. Half an hour outside away from the child induced chaos (which I love, but you need a break from it sometimes).
- bsuh 6y agoMaybe it's just best to let go instead of trying to mini-max your life's productivity, train yourself like Pavlov's dogs with XYZ productivity systems, and guilt-shame yourself over each day you miss out on part of an evergrowing habit list of shoulda-coulda-woulda's. Maybe procrastination is an emotional regulation problem and tying your self-worth to your productivity leads to more internal conflict between guilt of not doing enough vs fear of failure. Maybe we could approach improvement out of a place of genuine interest or self-care, instead of treating ourselves like a computer on a cron schedule and then inevitably getting frustrated when we discover that we're human.
- al_ak 6y agoResearch seems to agree with you: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/dont-delay/202003/negative-emotions-today-predict-procrastination-tomorrow https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/dont-delay/202003/ne...
- snazz 6y agoThis is true. Setting goals for yourself can be effective so long as you don't beat yourself up too horribly if they fail. That's usually counterproductive--especially if the goal is to improve your mental health.
- partyboat1586 6y agoYup. If you tie your self worth to your productivity then it makes emotionally difficult tasks even more difficult. Ask yourself: 'Why do I want to make this change?' 'Why does doing this thing make me feel bad?' The answer to the first question is just for you and it should be solid. If you don't believe it then it's not going to work. The answer to the second question is usually either because you have had a bad experience in the past or because it's enough out of your comfort zone that it challenges your identity. It takes a lot less than you would imagine to challenge your identity. If you can work through these issues a little bit before you start on your journey of change and continue working on them as you go it will be a much smoother ride and you will be far less likely to give up. It involves being OK with negative emotion during the act and taking the time to process those feelings afterwards. The cool thing is this doesn't just apply to productivity but anything you want to change in your life. Sometimes you need change and sometimes you are just guilting yourself into doing things other people told you were good for you. That is why you start by asking 'why?'.
- Barrin92 6y ago>A couple of months ago, I was a train wreck that ate too many cinnamon rolls and watched Netflix while laying in sweats on the couch. Yesterday, I ran 3 miles, did 40 minutes of yoga, meditated, ate steel cut oats with berries for breakfast, then turned on my favorite business podcast while I showered, all before work started. This reminds me of this guy with the bookshelf in his garage that went viral on youtube years ago. I honestly don't think gamifying your life and jumping on the hedonistic treatmill is a step up from eating cinnamon rolls at 3 am, just the flip side of the same coin. It Reminds me of Baudrillard in America "The skateboarder with his Walkman, the intellectual working on his wordprocessor, the Bronx breakdancer whirling frantically in the Roxy, the jogger and the body-builder: everywhere, whether in regard to the body or the mental faculties, you find the same blank solitude, the same narcissistic refraction. This omnipresent cult of the body is extraordinary. It is the only object on which everyone is made to concentrate, not as a source of pleasure, but as an object of frantic concern, in the obsessive fear of failure or substandard performance, a sign and an anticipation of death, that death to which no one can any longer give a meaning, but which everyone knows has at all times to be prevented. The body is cherished in the perverse certainty of its uselessness, in the total certainty of its non-resurrection. Now, pleasure is an effect of the resurrection of the body, by which it exceeds that hormonal, vascular and dietetic equilibrium in which we seek to imprison it, that exorcism by fitness and hygiene. So the body has to be made to forget pleasure as present grace, to forget its possible metamorphosis into other forms of appearance and become dedicated to the Utopian preservation of a youth that is, in any case, already lost. For the body which doubts its own existence is already half-dead, and the current semi-yogic, semi-ecstatic cult of the body is a morbid preoccupation. The care taken of the body while it is alive prefigures the way it will be made up in the funeral home, where it will be given a smile that is really ‘into’ death."
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoCute. But really, eating oneself into a miserable pain-ridden old age is not comparable to healthy eating and exercise in moderation? Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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- flipactual 6y agoI’ve recently gotten my shit together by deciding to stop making new habits and worrying about what I do or don’t accomplish It’s been incredibly freeing to not worry so much about hitting these arbitrary KPIs and instead just see what I feel like doing in any given moment You’ll struggle to find any blog posts about this perspective though... we’re all too busy enjoying life
- angel_j 6y agoSelf care counts as productivity now?
- klyrs 6y agoAbsolutely! A huge amount of "yak-shaving" is fundamentally caused by a lack of maintenance. Self-care is maintenance for your mental and physical health. It might feel like a distraction in the moment, but in the long run, it's a time saver.
- gonational 6y agoIt’s amazing how many things exist in modern western culture that are geared around the most basic principles that used to be automatic, like “work hard”, “make your bed”, etc. However, it’s easy to draw a strong correlation between this and the the departure from farm / manufacturing life into modern urban / suburban office life. In, perhaps, 60 years, we will be at a point where the vast majority of people won’t even know anyone who works hard (from today’s perspective, such as a garbage man or farm hand). In the long run, these kinds of jobs simply won’t be valued; they’ll all have been “tractored out”.
- oillio 6y agoWon't be valued, or won't exist? The way automation is going, in 60 years your trash will take itself out.
- fratlas 6y agoLike all things in life, it's about balance so you don't become accustomed. Can't wait for the day I only have to cook when I want to; because automated, healthy, home-cooked meals are possible.
- Noos 6y agoIt's hard to take advice from someone who says "in a couple of months i became this" at the start of the blog, and who ends it with actually telling us it was 6 months.
- bryanrasmussen 6y agoI find myself suspicious of anyone that starts off comparing themselves with Patrick Bateman.
- michalu 6y agoA little bit too soon to give advice on how to be productive after only two months. You haven't conquered laziness unless you're consistently productive over the course of the years and that state becomes your normal. Most people have these bursts of productivity for a short time that follows a slump and a realization. Sometimes you try new technique and that trust in the technique provides enough motivation to get you going for a while. But in fact, relying on a technique is relying on outside factors not having trust in you. Trust in yourself is the beginning of the lasting change.
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