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I'm at a hospital where someone at long last got authorized to try ML on the clinical database. The ethical committee required that prior to using any data, yo
by rscho 6y ago
I'm at a hospital where someone at long last got authorized to try ML on the clinical database.
The ethical committee required that prior to using any data, you have to make a static copy in another database. Their argument is
1. They don't want excel files flying around (which will happen regardless) and
2. To perform any analysis, you "obviously" have to have "structured data", which "obviously" means that you have to extract a csv from the base system (MongoDB) and put that into a RDBMS (redcap).
Go figure...
- ilaksh 6y agoWhy is the ethical committee allowed to make technical architectural decisions if they aren't in the technical team? I would resign.
- danieltillett 6y agoWhy are the ethics committees allowed to make any decisions? When I was on one I would by default let everything through unless I came across something where I thought I could help improve the experimental design. My colleagues on the other hand would go through them like little emperors and cause grief for the applicant just because they could.
- vslira 6y agoI'm trying to imagine the kind of org that uses MongoDB and has someone on the ethical board with enough technical knowledge to understand the difference between sql and nosql and at the same time believe that nosql can't hold structured data, and that data for an analysis that probably won't have more than some megabytes must be put in a specific-purpose database instead of being consumed as CSV, a format this same person appears to be familiar with. I mean, what a weird combination of tech (un)savviness