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Is it really surprising that a moderator, who is meant to be enforcing the rules, protesting a "respect trans people's pronouns" rule with "what if I just stop

Is it really surprising that a moderator, who is meant to be enforcing the rules, protesting a "respect trans people's pronouns" rule with "what if I just stop using pronouns" didn't go well for them? StackOverflow should pick moderators that respect the spirit of the rules they're going to be enforcing.

__blockcipher__ 6y ago
You should read more about the situation. I think your take is quite naive, frankly. And why it became okay to compel someone to use a certain pronoun as opposed to compelling them to _not misgender_ is absolute lunacy. Monica wanted to write her sentences in a way that did not require pronouns period, and they decided that was not okay. Not to mention all the mud-dragging and character assassination they pulled. I’m on mobile so won’t dig up the link but go find what Monica wrote on it
- judge2020 6y ago
  This is the best high-level overview: https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/334417/302954 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/334417/302954
solveit 6y ago
Sure, but moderators are elected by the community, Monica was elected before the new policy was a thing, and the community including Monica and StackExchange were discussing what the new policy was going to look like (the policy hadn't even been finalized yet, let alone rolled out) when SE went and fired Monica (doesn't matter what the reason, firing people from elected positions without consensus doesn't go over well) and dissed Monica (by name!) to the media. And then obviously Monica crowdfunded $25k to sue SE, they came to an agreement and neither party really talks about the incident any more. There was really no need for the situation to escalate as harshly as it did and SE shot themselves in the foot repeatedly.
Dylan16807 6y ago
It wasn't a protest, and Monica already didn't use pronouns.

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Is it really surprising that a moderator, who is meant to be enforcing the rules, protesting a "respect trans people's pronouns" rule with "what if I just stop

by AgentME 6y ago

__blockcipher__ 6y ago
You should read more about the situation. I think your take is quite naive, frankly. And why it became okay to compel someone to use a certain pronoun as opposed to compelling them to _not misgender_ is absolute lunacy. Monica wanted to write her sentences in a way that did not require pronouns period, and they decided that was not okay. Not to mention all the mud-dragging and character assassination they pulled. I’m on mobile so won’t dig up the link but go find what Monica wrote on it
- judge2020 6y ago
  This is the best high-level overview: https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/334417/302954 https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/334417/302954
solveit 6y ago
Sure, but moderators are elected by the community, Monica was elected before the new policy was a thing, and the community including Monica and StackExchange were discussing what the new policy was going to look like (the policy hadn't even been finalized yet, let alone rolled out) when SE went and fired Monica (doesn't matter what the reason, firing people from elected positions without consensus doesn't go over well) and dissed Monica (by name!) to the media. And then obviously Monica crowdfunded $25k to sue SE, they came to an agreement and neither party really talks about the incident any more. There was really no need for the situation to escalate as harshly as it did and SE shot themselves in the foot repeatedly.
Dylan16807 6y ago
It wasn't a protest, and Monica already didn't use pronouns.