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> This is a great example of a place where you shouldn't use punc-quote formatting There's no place where it should be used. It can only introduce ambiguities,
by zapzupnz 6y ago
> This is a great example of a place where you shouldn't use punc-quote formatting
There's no place where it should be used. It can only introduce ambiguities, never solve any.
Quote-punc, on the other hand, doesn't introduce any. What always drove me nuts in academic writing was the knowledge that no matter how well I chose to format my article, the publisher would always introduce punc-quote and wreck things.
I'd have to defensively write around the potential placement of a punctuation mark which is just insane.
- kleiba 6y agoMy former boss, a university professor, is a very good writer and leaning towards the anal side when it comes to things like punctuation, wording, spelling, etc. I remember we once worked on a journal article together that was edited somewhere in India. She sent in a pristine source file, and got back a print proof where literally tens of mistakes had been introduced. She corrected them meticulously, sent the corrected version back, and received another proof with another tens of errors introduced. This went on for quite a while, you can only admire my boss's perseverance. However, what I don't understand is how these mistakes could have been introduced in the first place? It almost felt like someone on the other end was actually retyping all of her writing, or else how was it possible to get all of these mistakes in there?
- JoeAltmaier 6y agoWas there money involved? Perhaps it was a scam, or a failure to pay the right bribe.
- kleiba 6y agoGood call, but no, it was for an Elsevier journal.
- swiley 6y agoSo a scam then.
- kleiba 6y agoYou know I set you up for that joke, right? :)
- ethanwillis 6y agoYea Elsevier just finds whatever warm (free) body they can to edit.
- scythe 6y agoElsevier is a mixed bag. They bought up thousands of journals with not that much centralized oversight. They have a long history in publishing but as a subsidiary of an increasingly broad conglomerate (RELX) they sometimes show more interest in exploiting their reputation than maintaining it. That leads to things like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Fake_journals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsevier#Fake_journals Disclosure: I formerly worked for MDPI, a rival.
- kleiba 6y agoThanks for this info. In my case, it was a renowned journal though.
- cjmb 6y agoStrongly agree. When the rules are bad, don't conform to them. I always use Quote-punc in my own writing if there is any possibility of ambiguity.