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What a crock of shit that grills are now IoT devices. The less of my life that’s accessible on the Internet, the better.
by beervirus 6y ago
What a crock of shit that grills are now IoT devices. The less of my life that’s accessible on the Internet, the better.
- DaniloDias 6y agoWay prefer a grill with an IP address to an oven or refrigerator.
- frenchy 6y agoAt least it's easier to throw out the window.
- thephyber 6y agoAll 3 of these will inevitably be botnet nodes and DDoS amplifiers. We aren't ready for the responsibility of having any of these class of devices added to the internet.
- dangrossman 6y ago"Alexa, set my oven to bake at 375" is something you hear several times a week in my house. ️ Now my dishwasher, that's got wifi as well and that one I don't really get. The only command it accepts is to tell me how many dishwasher detergent pods I have left. To have it track that, I have to tell it whenever I buy more pods, and it subtracts one every time I run a dishwashing cycle.
- SlashmanX 6y agoYou could probably hook that up to grocy[0] [0] - https://grocy.info/ https://grocy.info/
- TeMPOraL 6y agoHope it's not a gas grill, or you may be one zero-day short of a remotely-activated IED.
- dkarl 6y agoI think it would be really nice to have access to cameras in my refrigerator when I have a dinner idea as I'm leaving work.
- tetha 6y agoI'm utterly confused there as well. Decent grills I've owned consisted of three metal poles, a chain, a grill. Maybe a metal frame, a metal pan, a grill. Technically, I don't think I'd need much more than a bunch of sticks to grill something, besides fire material. This is so nuts, there must be something missingThis might be a recipe app registering some bullshit capabilities or something.
- lostlogin 6y agoLan accessible devices can be amazing. Automatic on and off of various devices and removal of crap proprietary controllers and apps has made many things much better. Home Assistant running in Docker on a Synology 918 is easily the best tech I have every bought.
- monadic2 6y ago> Automatic on and off of various devices and removal of crap proprietary controllers and apps has made many things much better Off-hand I'd think for things like a grill I'd want this to be handled at the power strip level. Normally a grill, like a weber grill, is just a piece of metal and will last until you wear it out (even then it's mostly the flimsy legs that fail). If you add internet connectivity, the expected lifetime value of a product goes way down: failing hardware, services that get shut down, protocols that stop working as expected. Meanwhile at the power strip level, you can both monitor and enforce energy usage, something that's beneficial even if you remove the ability to control it remotely (and why would you!?). I'd imagine for most things but maybe my computer and media setup I'd prefer to be able to simply cut the power to ensure it's not running. EDIT: Apparently this is a meat thermometer!
- detaro 6y agoThis is a meat thermometer with Bluetooth. It neither breaks your grill if it ever stops being supported nor does it talk directly to the internet (although the app might of course. but Bluetooth typically can be reverse engineered)
- TeMPOraL 6y agoYeah, and some people over at [0] are insisting that there's no way cheap cellular connectivity will mean you'll have 5G in your toaster. No way anyone would do that. smh. -- [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23273340 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23273340
- detaro 6y agoThere's somewhat of a difference between "people will buy a premium product with 'smart' features" (a wireless meat thermometer in this case) and "they will put 5G chips into everything to spy on us even if we just want a dumb device"
- TeMPOraL 6y agoBoth will happen. Smart TVs are evidence of the latter.
- crazygringo 6y agoI saw from another thread that this is actually for the temperature of a meat thermometer, that you can constantly monitor and without having to open the grill (which is undesirable). So actually not a crock of shit, and pretty useful if you're grilling/smoking over long periods of time before/during a big party or something. Not all grilling is quick searing. Sometimes new features aren't just gimmicks, you know?
- youngNed 6y agoa guage. On the bbq lid. No, i can't check it while i sit inside, this is true, there is, however a very good argument that says, maybe i shouldn't actually be inside while the bbq is on though.
- olyjohn 6y agoNot the grill temp... the meat temp.
- tomrod 6y agoConnecting the thermometer to a gauge could support either grill or meat the same way a (now-too-many-moving-parts) iot device would.
- flukus 6y agoA meat gauge connected to the thermometer on the lid then. This whole attitude to cooking is also weird. Cooking is in large part experimenting, seeing what works and what doesn't, learning and iterating. Sometimes the results will be bad, often they'll be sub-optimal but the variance is part of what makes it and we lose something by trying to turn it into an exact science. If you want something precisely timed and always the same I suggest McDonalds.
- KZeillmann 6y agoUsing a meat thermometer (leave-in probe or instant) is a fantastic element of modern cooking, and a huge advancement in food safety. I can't imagine cooking without it. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy experimenting - but it does mean my chicken doesn't dry out or come out undercooked.
- syntheticnature 6y agoAnd, as was in the reply tweets, it's not an IoT grill. It's a thermometer app for a Bluetooth thermometer. https://www.weber.com/US/en/igrill/weber-25969.html https://www.weber.com/US/en/igrill/weber-25969.html
- notJim 6y agoI have a Weber grill that claims to be iGrill Ready™® and it's very optional, FWIW. I have no idea what it does and have never interacted with it, even though I'm just constantly grilling.
- _AzMoo 6y agoNo, it's awesome. If you're slow cooking some meat for 9 hours you need a constant low temperature. It connects to the app on your phone and you can set thresholds to alert on. You can connect multiple probes, so you can monitor the temperature of the grill as well as the temperature of the meat, all without having to open the grill which compromises the temperature. Makes slow cooking (the best kind) infinitely easier.
- chadcmulligan 6y agoMy brother has one, sticks a roast in the weber, his iPhone goes ding when it's up to temperature while he's watching tv. It's a great thing.
- ape4 6y agoHave you the tried the iCrock, it will change your mind ;)
- CivBase 6y agoIt's actually not the grill - just a bluetooth thermometer that you can attach to the grill. I have one and it's very useful. I find it much more practical than other "smart" devices like thermostats, light bulbs, refrigerators, or even TVs. https://www.weber.com/US/en/igrill/weber-25969.html https://www.weber.com/US/en/igrill/weber-25969.html
- annoyingnoob 6y agoFor me part of grilling is being outside and probably not far form the grill. I try to manage temp and time so that I only need to use a thermometer as a double-check right at the end of cooking. I would never even think to use a remote read thermometer, let alone an IoT one.
- mattmaroon 6y agoMan I love my pellet grill WiFi. If I’m doing an overnight brisket I can check on it without leaving my bed. And if it gets done early it’ll notify me. I upgraded specifically for that and I genuinely love it.