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Siri doesn't know that my front door is called "FRONT DOOR". I only have one smart lock, which works perfectly, and it is called "FRONT DOOR" in HomeKit. When

Siri doesn't know that my front door is called "FRONT DOOR". I only have one smart lock, which works perfectly, and it is called "FRONT DOOR" in HomeKit. When I ask Siri about my FRONT DOOR she responds that she cannot find it. When I ask Siri about the status of my DOOR, she responds with "The FRONT DOOR is locked/unlocked". I'll then say 'Alright Siri you literally just used the phrase "FRONT DOOR" five seconds ago and the text transcript on the screen says "FRONT DOOR" hey Siri is my FRONT DOOR locked' Siri: WTF are you talking about? You don't have a FRONT DOOR. "Hey Siri is my door locked" Siri: Your FRONT DOOR is locked. Google and Alexa handle things flawlessly.

0zymandiass 6y ago
I don't know if it works there, but siri couldn't understand one of my contacts names When it read back super incorrectly from an alias, I said something to the effect of "could you pronounce that correctly?" and it asked me to say it Since then, it's understood that person's name. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It really needs to expose the option to train those easily
- LeoPanthera 6y ago
  Indeed, you can say "That's not how you say that" to correct its pronunciation of any name.
  - deleted 6y ago
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- cachvico 6y ago
  There is a "Pronunciation" field in the contact where you can spell out how a name is pronounced. This article clears everything up, https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8116586 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8116586
reaperducer 6y ago
About once a week Siri and I have this conversation: Me: "Siri, turn off the bedroom lights." Siri: "OK. Your 6am alarm is off." For the most part Siri works for me, with the exception of the above and her insistence on adding "ginger ale" to my grocery list as two items. /Native English speaker, specifically trained in non-regional diction because I used to work on-air in radio.
- Lammy 6y ago
  That conversation sounds like Siri thinks you're about to go to sleep and wants to make sure you remember to enable your wake-up alarm.
  - mzz80 6y ago
    No, that’s what Siri says when it disables your alarm lol.
    - smabie 6y ago
      She wants you to get more sleep so she's disabling your alarm.
- ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago
  >Native English speaker, specifically trained in non-regional diction because I used to work on-air in radio. Well there's your problem (/s): https://youtube.com/watch?v=Avp9aUkM5g0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Avp9aUkM5g0
- vagab0nd 6y ago
  It could be worse. It could have said "OK".
- GilbertErik 6y ago
  In the past week: me: "Hey Google, add half and half to the shopping list." gh: "I've added those two things." ----- me: "Set an alarm for 2:30 tomorrow" gh: <generic alarm set response> ... wife at 2:30AM: "hey... HEY... why's the alarm in the kitchen downstairs going off?"
dag11 6y ago
Similarly, I have two smart outlets and one smart lightswitch in a room. One is called "Drew's LEDs", and the other is called "Drew's Heater". When I ask google to "Turn off the lights!" it turns off the switch and the "Drew's LEDs" smart outlet, but not the "Heater" smart outlet! I definitely appreciate the effort they put into understanding the semantic nature of a device from the name I assigned it. Nowhere did I ever designate one of the smart outlets to "behave like a light."
- jdavis703 6y ago
  Scary! I would never have anything involving heat (oven, space heater, etc) or water connected to the IoT. Way too much risk of fire or flood from a bug or a hack.
ImminentDugong 6y ago
What's most likely happening here is that any door can be classified as "front door", and Siri doesn't know whether you want to open the door which has been marked as "front door" (you have none?) or the one named "FRONT DOOR". File a bug and it will probably be fixed.
- perl4ever 6y ago
  My computer is a laptop, which is on my desktop, and there is a desktop on that laptop, and on the desktop is "My Computer". I think I just made a palindrome of homonyms.
ryanjshaw 6y ago
Not in my experience. This is how 80% of my Google Assistant conversations go: Me: "Hey Google, play Nine Inch Nails, you know, the one in my Google Play library" Google: "OK, playing Nine Inch Snails, a band nobody on Earth has heard of and is definitely not in your library!" Me: (Repeat a few times, trying all kinds of accents, eventually I get tired of songs about nine inch somethings, and I pull the car over and type in by hand what I'm looking for.)
- sweethuman 6y ago
  And what bugs me the most about the Google Play Music Library is that it won't sync up with the YouTube Music Library... They have two different music services which I can use with one subscription but I can't have some of the songs on both of them or have one single library.
  - pgodzin 6y ago
    You're going to have to, as they're going to merge https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/05/16/how-to-transfer-play-music-library-youtube-music/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/05/16/how-to-transfer-pla...
    - ajmurmann 6y ago
      Thanks for calling this out! I guess I really should check regularly for every Google service I use if it's being discontinued yet.
      - netsharc 6y ago
        There's that Google Graveyard site, maybe they should make an aaS out of it, e.g. you can do an API call with services you use, and it will respond letting you know if any of them is about to be euthanized by Google...
        vhufcn 6y ago
rm445 6y ago
All these speech assistants are almost stateless, aren't they? I mean, they can ask you questions and go into a listen-for-an-answer state, but, at least last time I tried, you can't have a conversation about your conversation with them and improve their comprehension of anything. It's like talking to a command line, or those old Palm Pilots you had to learn a special alphabet to scribble on. It's quite interesting to hear very small children talk to voice assistants. Probably not surprising, but it seems like in normally-learnt human communication you expect your conversational partner to remember the context of what you were saying, and carefully forming canned commands is a separate learned skill. It suggests these voice assistants have still got a way to go, and it seems more like a paradigm change, a big leap, than just incremental improvements.
- giancarlostoro 6y ago
  > you can't have a conversation about your conversation with them and improve their comprehension of anything. It's like talking to a command line, or those old Palm Pilots you had to learn a special alphabet to scribble on. Which is why I have no confidence calling it AI if its not even intelligent. Its just voice recognition on preprogrammed operations.
  - ratsmack 6y ago
    >Which is why I have no confidence calling it AI... That's because it really should be called Simulated Intelligence, and would be a much more accurate description. The marketing team wouldn't like this though.
    - ajmurmann 6y ago
      Are they even simulating intelligence. To the parent poster's point it's really just simulated voice recognition. No intelligence even gets simulated. This is more like running cucumber scripts based on voice recognition.
      - swinglock 6y ago
aidenscott2016 6y ago
is it named in capital letters? I've noticed some systems will see capital letters and read it as F-R-O-N-T etc. Maybe try renaming the door to lower case
knodi123 6y ago
The people who cut my grass are in my phonebook, under, let's say "Lawn Cutting Corp". If I say "Siri, call lawn cutting corp", she'll say "I'm sorry, I can only call a single person at a time." If I say "Siri, call lawn corp", then it immediately opens the phone and says "Dialing lawn cutting corp."
edhelas 6y ago
At this point better stop using Siri and just check by yourself no :D ?

0zymandiass 6y ago

I don't know if it works there, but siri couldn't understand one of my contacts names When it read back super incorrectly from an alias, I said something to the effect of "could you pronounce that correctly?" and it asked me to say it Since then, it's understood that person's name. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It really needs to expose the option to train those easily

LeoPanthera 6y ago
Indeed, you can say "That's not how you say that" to correct its pronunciation of any name.
- deleted 6y ago
  [deleted]
cachvico 6y ago
There is a "Pronunciation" field in the contact where you can spell out how a name is pronounced. This article clears everything up, https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8116586 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8116586

reaperducer 6y ago

About once a week Siri and I have this conversation: Me: "Siri, turn off the bedroom lights." Siri: "OK. Your 6am alarm is off." For the most part Siri works for me, with the exception of the above and her insistence on adding "ginger ale" to my grocery list as two items. /Native English speaker, specifically trained in non-regional diction because I used to work on-air in radio.

Lammy 6y ago
That conversation sounds like Siri thinks you're about to go to sleep and wants to make sure you remember to enable your wake-up alarm.
- mzz80 6y ago
  No, that’s what Siri says when it disables your alarm lol.
  - smabie 6y ago
    She wants you to get more sleep so she's disabling your alarm.
ThePowerOfFuet 6y ago
>Native English speaker, specifically trained in non-regional diction because I used to work on-air in radio. Well there's your problem (/s): https://youtube.com/watch?v=Avp9aUkM5g0 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Avp9aUkM5g0
vagab0nd 6y ago
It could be worse. It could have said "OK".
GilbertErik 6y ago
In the past week: me: "Hey Google, add half and half to the shopping list." gh: "I've added those two things." ----- me: "Set an alarm for 2:30 tomorrow" gh: <generic alarm set response> ... wife at 2:30AM: "hey... HEY... why's the alarm in the kitchen downstairs going off?"

dag11 6y ago

Similarly, I have two smart outlets and one smart lightswitch in a room. One is called "Drew's LEDs", and the other is called "Drew's Heater". When I ask google to "Turn off the lights!" it turns off the switch and the "Drew's LEDs" smart outlet, but not the "Heater" smart outlet! I definitely appreciate the effort they put into understanding the semantic nature of a device from the name I assigned it. Nowhere did I ever designate one of the smart outlets to "behave like a light."

jdavis703 6y ago
Scary! I would never have anything involving heat (oven, space heater, etc) or water connected to the IoT. Way too much risk of fire or flood from a bug or a hack.

ImminentDugong 6y ago

What's most likely happening here is that any door can be classified as "front door", and Siri doesn't know whether you want to open the door which has been marked as "front door" (you have none?) or the one named "FRONT DOOR". File a bug and it will probably be fixed.

perl4ever 6y ago
My computer is a laptop, which is on my desktop, and there is a desktop on that laptop, and on the desktop is "My Computer". I think I just made a palindrome of homonyms.

ryanjshaw 6y ago

Not in my experience. This is how 80% of my Google Assistant conversations go: Me: "Hey Google, play Nine Inch Nails, you know, the one in my Google Play library" Google: "OK, playing Nine Inch Snails, a band nobody on Earth has heard of and is definitely not in your library!" Me: (Repeat a few times, trying all kinds of accents, eventually I get tired of songs about nine inch somethings, and I pull the car over and type in by hand what I'm looking for.)

sweethuman 6y ago
And what bugs me the most about the Google Play Music Library is that it won't sync up with the YouTube Music Library... They have two different music services which I can use with one subscription but I can't have some of the songs on both of them or have one single library.
- pgodzin 6y ago
  You're going to have to, as they're going to merge https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/05/16/how-to-transfer-play-music-library-youtube-music/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/05/16/how-to-transfer-pla...
  - ajmurmann 6y ago
    Thanks for calling this out! I guess I really should check regularly for every Google service I use if it's being discontinued yet.
    - netsharc 6y ago
      There's that Google Graveyard site, maybe they should make an aaS out of it, e.g. you can do an API call with services you use, and it will respond letting you know if any of them is about to be euthanized by Google...
      - vhufcn 6y ago

rm445 6y ago

All these speech assistants are almost stateless, aren't they? I mean, they can ask you questions and go into a listen-for-an-answer state, but, at least last time I tried, you can't have a conversation about your conversation with them and improve their comprehension of anything. It's like talking to a command line, or those old Palm Pilots you had to learn a special alphabet to scribble on. It's quite interesting to hear very small children talk to voice assistants. Probably not surprising, but it seems like in normally-learnt human communication you expect your conversational partner to remember the context of what you were saying, and carefully forming canned commands is a separate learned skill. It suggests these voice assistants have still got a way to go, and it seems more like a paradigm change, a big leap, than just incremental improvements.

giancarlostoro 6y ago
> you can't have a conversation about your conversation with them and improve their comprehension of anything. It's like talking to a command line, or those old Palm Pilots you had to learn a special alphabet to scribble on. Which is why I have no confidence calling it AI if its not even intelligent. Its just voice recognition on preprogrammed operations.
- ratsmack 6y ago
  >Which is why I have no confidence calling it AI... That's because it really should be called Simulated Intelligence, and would be a much more accurate description. The marketing team wouldn't like this though.
  - ajmurmann 6y ago
    Are they even simulating intelligence. To the parent poster's point it's really just simulated voice recognition. No intelligence even gets simulated. This is more like running cucumber scripts based on voice recognition.
    - swinglock 6y ago

aidenscott2016 6y ago

is it named in capital letters? I've noticed some systems will see capital letters and read it as F-R-O-N-T etc. Maybe try renaming the door to lower case

knodi123 6y ago

The people who cut my grass are in my phonebook, under, let's say "Lawn Cutting Corp". If I say "Siri, call lawn cutting corp", she'll say "I'm sorry, I can only call a single person at a time." If I say "Siri, call lawn corp", then it immediately opens the phone and says "Dialing lawn cutting corp."

edhelas 6y ago

At this point better stop using Siri and just check by yourself no :D ?